The NI/ROI Protocol

stewart

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There is a free trade agreement between UK and EU, so there is no customs duty to be paid when you import from UK, including from NI.
You will however have to pay VAT, in UK side, plus the differential between VAT rates between UK and ROI. If say VAT in UK in that product is 15% you will be charged that by the UK supplier. If the VAT is 20% in ROI, you will pay the difference (5%) in ROI.
Any chance Morris have an agent in NI? If they have, that would be the most convenient way for you to get your hands on it.
There should be no VAT charged on an export from the UK, import VAT will be charged at that countries full rate on the import.
 

mar

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There is a free trade agreement between UK and EU, so there is no customs duty to be paid when you import from UK, including from NI.
You will however have to pay VAT, in UK side, plus the differential between VAT rates between UK and ROI. If say VAT in UK in that product is 15% you will be charged that by the UK supplier. If the VAT is 20% in ROI, you will pay the difference (5%) in ROI.
Any chance Morris have an agent in NI? If they have, that would be the most convenient way for you to get your hands on it.

George Hamilton Machinery Randalstown are Morris agents
Teemore Engineering sell them but they are more interested in selling their own, I would prefer the Morris, I have looked at a couple of different copies and a few wee things put me off them.

I was talking to George Hamilton and he told me that they don't make one that can be operated from both the left and right hand side, you have to pick one or the other. Morris told me that they can make one that can be operated from both sides. I would prefer to buy if of the person that wants to sell it to me.
 

Ashtree

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nivilla1982

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"The news that Northern Ireland voters would choose to stay in the UK – by a majority of 54% to 46% in my poll, once undecideds are excluded – is a welcome early Christmas gift for unionists. In a similar survey two years ago, I found a wafer-thin margin for Ulster to join the Republic in a united Ireland. As in Scotland, where support for independence has fallen, ideals of national identity are being edged aside by a renewed post-pandemic focus on practicalities like public services and living costs."

 

nivilla1982

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So despite being treated like their opinion is of no consequence and being lied to repeatedly by HM Government, some people in NI have actually moved from being of a nationalist persuasion to being in favour of the union.

I think Ashcroft was asking the right people, assuming he asked anyone at all.
 
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yin ewe

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Co Antrim
So despite being treated like their opinion is of no consequence and being lied to repeatedly by HM Government, some people in NI have actually moved from being of a nationalist persuasion to being in favour of the union.

I think Ashcroft was asking the right people, assuming he asked anyone at all.

It comes down to the pound note, do you think Dublin could afford or be willing to keep us in the manner we've become accustomed to.
It's all well and good having an ideology for a united Ireland when asked about it for a poll, but a different thing to vote for it in the privacy of the voting booth.
 

Ashtree

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It comes down to the pound note, do you think Dublin could afford or be willing to keep us in the manner we've become accustomed to.
It's all well and good having an ideology for a united Ireland when asked about it for a poll, but a different thing to vote for it in the privacy of the voting booth.
Of course you are right. But are you really. Electorates far and wide, have been known to or duped into voting for the unaffordable.
If nothing else, SF knows how to electioneer and sell its message. They are well able to pull support in NI from non unionist and non core nationalist sides. Unionist politicians are nowhere near as savvy or marketable to this middle ground.
Likewise in ROI now, Mary Lou doesn’t stink like Gerry, and their better known TD’s are sharp media operators. All in all, they are eating the lunch of FG, FF and Labour.
It’s only a matter of time, before they take first minister in NI and Taoiseach in ROI. I don’t put it past them, to sway the United Ireland situation, in their favour.
 
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yin ewe

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Of course you are right. But are you really. Electorates far and wide, have been known to or duped into voting for the unaffordable.
If nothing else, SF knows how to electioneer and sell its message. They are well able to pull support in NI from non unionist and non core nationalist sides. Unionist politicians are nowhere near as savvy or marketable to this middle ground.
Likewise in ROI now, Mary Lou doesn’t stink like Gerry, and their better known TD’s are sharp media operators. All in all, they are eating the lunch of FG, FF and Labour.
It’s only a matter of time, before they take first minister in NI and Taoiseach in ROI. I don’t put it past them, to sway the United Ireland situation, in their favour.

Perhaps a spell as Taoiseach is what they need as they'll have nowhere to hide and can't snipe from the sidelines.
 
It comes down to the pound note, do you think Dublin could afford or be willing to keep us in the manner we've become accustomed to.
It's all well and good having an ideology for a united Ireland when asked about it for a poll, but a different thing to vote for it in the privacy of the voting booth.
I'm not so sure that ideology doesn't come into it when people vote.

Some people in NI voted for Brexit, and it was obviously going to pose problems for NI.
Yet some did it, and here we are 56 pages later and some folks can't get bedding plants or wishbones for a Shogun.

Some loons will believe all sorts of nonsense when they want it to be right, and I would say there are plenty who would vote for a united Ireland even if it wasn't going to be the easy option.
 

The Agrarian

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Co Antrim
Of course you are right. But are you really. Electorates far and wide, have been known to or duped into voting for the unaffordable.
If nothing else, SF knows how to electioneer and sell its message. They are well able to pull support in NI from non unionist and non core nationalist sides. Unionist politicians are nowhere near as savvy or marketable to this middle ground.
Likewise in ROI now, Mary Lou doesn’t stink like Gerry, and their better known TD’s are sharp media operators. All in all, they are eating the lunch of FG, FF and Labour.
It’s only a matter of time, before they take first minister in NI and Taoiseach in ROI. I don’t put it past them, to sway the United Ireland situation, in their favour.

It's an awfully grim prospect for peace and democracy to have a the representatives of the main terrorist murder gang in government in the Republic, holding the hand of itself in OFDFM as co-guarantor of the peace deal. It's a twisted and sick thing.
 

Joe

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Carlow Ireland
Perhaps a spell as Taoiseach is what they need as they'll have nowhere to hide and can't snipe from the sidelines.
Maybe but hopefully somewhere moderates in north and south are having discussions about way forward, because when they get in and have the front foot I worry as inclusiveness and moderate discussions' hasnt been their mantra. Would say their vote here is fragile, and huge % of over 40 middle class would never vote for them.
 

nivilla1982

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Livestock Farmer
It's an awfully grim prospect for peace and democracy to have a the representatives of the main terrorist murder gang in government in the Republic, holding the hand of itself in OFDFM as co-guarantor of the peace deal. It's a twisted and sick thing.
One could make the argument that the entire "peace process" is a rather twisted immoral maze. With far less open violence than the "Troubles"

The issue for the ROI is PSF popular for their apparent policies or simply because they are not FF/FG/GR etc?
 

The Agrarian

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Co Antrim
It's very possible that a SF Irish prime minister and NI FM could crush the effort for unity for a very long time. If they use the Irish PM in a partisan way, which seems highly likely, then it will get backs up, even moderate ones. Irish-unionist relations, which have been relatively genial for a few decades, would be set back enormously. You could see the whole thing becoming very negative and confrontational again, in such a way that nobody on the island would want any part of it.
 

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