The NI/ROI Protocol

JimAndy

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Mixed Farmer
It's far harder getting stuff in to NI than it is in to mainland europe , why's that I wonder .
because in the year that were knew it was coming, Ewin poots , sat with his head up his ass and put in place no systems to help the people, hence why Groves had to take over to try and put something in place. in the mean time poots has been fighting to stop anything that would make it easier


Considering some of the crap that floats around some of their EU countries I'm pretty sure they can take it that the UK matches their standards

It not UK crap they worried about. it the USA/AUS/mercous crap that could come in to the UK and then on to the EU via NI. If boris had just put in the Brexit bill that the UK would continued to enforce high standards and not let in any crap that doesn't meet UK standards then it would be a very easy fix. but he didn't
 

BrianV

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
because in the year that were knew it was coming, Ewin poots , sat with his head up his ass and put in place no systems to help the people, hence why Groves had to take over to try and put something in place. in the mean time poots has been fighting to stop anything that would make it easier




It not UK crap they worried about. it the USA/AUS/mercous crap that could come in to the UK and then on to the EU via NI. If boris had just put in the Brexit bill that the UK would continued to enforce high standards and not let in any crap that doesn't meet UK standards then it would be a very easy fix. but he didn't

Seems to me that a hell of lot people are happy to travel to the states stuff themselves on their food without a care in the world, whatever is said there is far more crap eaten in the EU than in the states.
Talk of chlorinated chicken etc is useful when negotiating but doesn't really mean a bloody thing in reality!
 

JimAndy

Member
Mixed Farmer
It's an urban myth the UK would import hormone beef etc , people are fussy buggers here .


what people don't know........

how many ready meals r sold,
are you told were that bugger you just got from a chip van is from
do schools/nhs or and government dept that buys food tell you the source

but you still have to answer my question
 

Ashtree

Member
It's far harder getting stuff in to NI than it is in to mainland europe , why's that I wonder .

But, but, you take back control, give it to Etonian Billy Bunter types, they in their mad rush hurry to Rule Britannia Global Britain, sell the union with NI for the cause. Abled and abetted by the DUP.
Six months on, Billy and his mates still haven’t put in the IT and infrastructure to make the protocol work.
One of the many things the British are world leaders at, is the creation of really excellent TV and comedy shows are top of the list. Yes Minister, was in my view perhaps the best of all those wonderful shows. No matter how many times I watch a repeat, the laugh factor never decreases.

Now of course, there is no need whatsoever to go on YouTube to watch episodes from bygone years. We are all being treated to a continuous loop of Yes Minister hilarious bungling being played out in real life. I notice the NI viewers for some peculiar reason cannot see the joke. Must have a strange sense of humour, eh!!!
 

bobk

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Location
stafford
But, but, you take back control, give it to Etonian Billy Bunter types, they in their mad rush hurry to Rule Britannia Global Britain, sell the union with NI for the cause. Abled and abetted by the DUP.
Six months on, Billy and his mates still haven’t put in the IT and infrastructure to make the protocol work.
One of the many things the British are world leaders at, is the creation of really excellent TV and comedy shows are top of the list. Yes Minister, was in my view perhaps the best of all those wonderful shows. No matter how many times I watch a repeat, the laugh factor never decreases.

Now of course, there is no need whatsoever to go on YouTube to watch episodes from bygone years. We are all being treated to a continuous loop of Yes Minister hilarious bungling being played out in real life. I notice the NI viewers for some peculiar reason cannot see the joke. Must have a strange sense of humour, eh!!!
Got f**k all do with you paddywhack ,
 

Ashtree

Member
Got fudge all do with you paddywhack ,

But it has Mick….. We neither got rolled over by Germans or self rolled over as predicted by the ERG et al. Now we are the difference between the Brexit envisioned by the ERG and the breakup of the UK as we know it. To crown it all, we have our man from Mayo in the Whitehouse.
The breakup of the UK is the inevitable outcome.
 

bobk

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Location
stafford
But it has Mick….. We neither got rolled over by Germans or self rolled over as predicted by the ERG et al. Now we are the difference between the Brexit envisioned by the ERG and the breakup of the UK as we know it. To crown it all, we have our man from Mayo in the Whitehouse.
The breakup of the UK is the inevitable outcome.
Not wishing to dampen your spirits and my history isn't sh!t hot , but didn't you lot wave the white feather when our lads were dying on the beaches ? and took one for the team in 2007 when the eu dumped a load of debt on your books .

Correct me if I'm wrong .
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
because in the year that were knew it was coming, Ewin poots , sat with his head up his ass and put in place no systems to help the people, hence why Groves had to take over to try and put something in place. in the mean time poots has been fighting to stop anything that would make it easier




It not UK crap they worried about. it the USA/AUS/mercous crap that could come in to the UK and then on to the EU via NI. If boris had just put in the Brexit bill that the UK would continued to enforce high standards and not let in any crap that doesn't meet UK standards then it would be a very easy fix. but he didn't

I presume Poots and the DUP's goal is to make the protocol as unworkable as possible with the aim forcing a land border to be reinstated. Whilst every other NI party is happy to try and make it work? And why does NI need English sausages for god's sake, I thought they made better ones themselves. :scratchhead:
 

Ashtree

Member
Not wishing to dampen your spirits and my history isn't sh!t hot , but didn't you lot wave the white feather when our lads were dying on the beaches ? and took one for the team in 2007 when the eu dumped a load of debt on your books .

Correct me if I'm wrong .

Officially DeValera could not possibly be seen to send Irish men to join the British army or fight alongside it, because of the depth of feeling in this country after Black and Tan waves of war crimes barely twenty years previously. That in turn after the potato famine, where British policy was “let them die”! No sir, aligning officially with Britain was not a deliverable policy. What was delivered was a blind eye, to the thousands of Irishmen who went to Britain and joined up. My village graveyard has a memorial to those from the locality who died in service in WW1 and WW2. The list of men on the memorial in Glasnevin Cemetary, Dublin is amazing.
Ar deis De go raibh a h-ainimheacha dills. (In the Queens own English, “May their souls lie in peace”!

 

bobk

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Location
stafford
Officially DeValera could not possibly be seen to send Irish men to join the British army or fight alongside it, because of the depth of feeling in this country after Black and Tan waves of war crimes barely twenty years previously. That in turn after the potato famine, where British policy was “let them die”! No sir, aligning officially with Britain was not a deliverable policy. What was delivered was a blind eye, to the thousands of Irishmen who went to Britain and joined up. My village graveyard has a memorial to those from the locality who died in service in WW1 and WW2. The list of men on the memorial in Glasnevin Cemetary, Dublin is amazing.
Ar deis De go raibh a h-ainimheacha dills. (In the Queens own English, “May their souls lie in peace”!

At least you don't bear grudges ,
 

JimAndy

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Mixed Farmer
Black and Tan waves of war crimes

and yet you never hear an irish man talk about the irish terrorist who were commenting equal if not greater crimes (as they were against there own countrymen

That in turn after the potato famine, where British policy was “let them die”

or the fact that the Famine was europe wide with scotland be equal as hard hit, and there wasn't a lot of spare food
and remember this was before the idea of social services were governments would help you out. it was at a time of if you were poor and sick you went to the poor house.

or that queen victoria send a large part of the feed from her own farms to ireland to help feed the people, which for some reason never got to the poor and needy, but there was a lot of bishops who suddenly had a lot of wealth.

in fairest to the south they did help were they could, they send a lot of aid north when belfast got bombed, you can still see in places on the west coast were they painted numbers on rocks so planes and ships knew were they were.
and they did turn a blind eye to the fly boats flying out of lough erne (a major assist in fighting the u-boats) and a direct violation of their neutrally, and a few germans spies were caught thanks to info from the irish

and lets not forget that while Brois did sell out N.I. Churchill also was willing to sell out N.I. to the south if only they would "join "the war even if it was only to use their ports and airfields. thankfully DeValera turned him down
 

linga

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Ceredigion
Officially DeValera could not possibly be seen to send Irish men to join the British army or fight alongside it, because of the depth of feeling in this country after Black and Tan waves of war crimes barely twenty years previously. That in turn after the potato famine, where British policy was “let them die”! No sir, aligning officially with Britain was not a deliverable policy. What was delivered was a blind eye, to the thousands of Irishmen who went to Britain and joined up. My village graveyard has a memorial to those from the locality who died in service in WW1 and WW2. The list of men on the memorial in Glasnevin Cemetary, Dublin is amazing.
Ar deis De go raibh a h-ainimheacha dills. (In the Queens own English, “May their souls lie in peace”!


How were many of these brave men treated when they returned?
 

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