"...the protectionist racket."

egbert

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Livestock Farmer
As small boy, my mother always took me to a traditional gents hairdressers, sitting on a board put across the chair's arms. As an adult I continued to go there.

In the seventies, a young hairdresser from London bought the business. It went appointments only, unisex and he employed to a pair of blonde dolly birds to cut hair as well as himself. He insisted that all hair should be cut wet, so everybody had to have a shampoo.

All the changes did not go down well with the original male clientele. They didn't like the challenge to the male only (anything for the weekend sir?) culture.

He closed the business after about 20 years an did something else. One of the girls had her own shop, but now operates from her home. I visit her every 6 weeks.

I think that all the hairdressers in the town are unisex now.

... so, about this blonde dolly bird, whose house you visit every 6 weeks.....
 

digger64

Member
One ofPoland easons I wear my hair long is that I dislike going to the barber's. The critical light of the barbershop mirror is hard to bear with equanimity, just as the critical opinions of my barber are equally difficult to bear - 'we should be like Singapore', he says.

That he wouldn't then be getting his OAP pension, or his sickly wife her NHS hospital care - or either of them the right to vote to change that state of affairs - escapes him completely.

What doesn't escape him is that European trade tariffs are a 'protectionist racket'. It must be so, because the Daily Express says so; you have to admire the linguistic sleight of hand - conflating the gangster's 'protection racket' with a nation's wish to protect its standards of living.

It seems the UK Government also reads the Express, because last week it advanced the abolition of import tariffs, with obvious consequences for UK agriculture.

Next day, CCF posted fliers to solicit local farmers to invest £200,000 each (minimum stake) in broiler production, in order to allow a local chicken producer to expand whilst laying off the risk of failure onto others. Which is nice, because both CCF and Capestone must have a fairly shrewd idea that the only way the average Pembrokeshire farmer can get his hands on £200,000 is to borrow it.

With obvious risks, if a farmer here is expected to compete with another farmer in Brazil, when the advantage of trade (in the absence of tariffs) lies only one way.

Even my barber wouldn't buy that investment proposition, right now.

Why do I get the feeling that farmers will, though?
Where do the chickens come from atm , let me guess poland , Ireland , Hungary , Lithuania or France perhaps ?
Bernard Matthews turkeys mostly come from Hungary did you know , they exported production there several years ago and a large proportion of their workforce here comes from those sort of places to, Banham poultry etc similar , guess that's just another example of the eu helping our local economy and keeping the people in the countryside .
 

Flat 10

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
If it helps, we (the NZ majority) voted to keep our present gov't OUT but they got IN, based on a referendum to "trial" a mixed member proportional (MMP) system that we (the NZ majority) would never have agreed to if we realised that it creates a state where several minorities together can undo the wishes of a majority.
Fortunately for them, the first referendum was never undone at the end of it's trial period because the second referendum went largely unnoticed due to media distraction techniques (ring any bells?)

The real winners: the extra members of parliament, who do very little except sit in parliament and keep shtum.


You guys definitely don't have this one all to yourselves :rolleyes:
..but you're still welcome to invest in broilers and suave hair ..
I'm sorry to here of your problems in NZ @Kiwi Pete but its a relief to know that we aren't the only ones to mess things up...
Proportional representation does not seem to be the answer to the UKs problems, especially when you look at Scotland (which unless I'm being a prat has PR, (apologies to all Scots if I have this wrong))
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Where do the chickens come from atm , let me guess poland , Ireland , Hungary , Lithuania or France perhaps ?
Bernard Matthews turkeys mostly come from Hungary did you know , they exported production there several years ago and a large proportion of their workforce here comes from those sort of places to, Banham poultry etc similar , guess that's just another example of the eu helping our local economy and keeping the people in the countryside .
The chooks and turkeys are produced in Pembrokeshire. The staff are from Polandshire though......
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
I'm sorry to here of your problems in NZ @Kiwi Pete but its a relief to know that we aren't the only ones to mess things up...
Proportional representation does not seem to be the answer to the UKs problems, especially when you look at Scotland (which unless I'm being a prat has PR, (apologies to all Scots if I have this wrong))
It really just feeds divisiveness.
The current situation is that at least 80% of voters go with their tribal favourite, the rest of the vote is divided up between a bunch of small (often single agenda) parties, and then the govt is decided by a "kingmaker" eg Winston Peters, who received about 6% of votes.
And then we bitch about it...
 

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
Have you worked out what you've saved over the years by doing it yourself?

Say £10 per visit once a month £120 a year.. I've been hacking away at mine for 22 years £2640 less £50 for a set of clippers and £1.50 for a tin of 3in 1 oil =£2588.50
A £2588.50 saving on hair cuts since I left home isn't bad!

Who needs a haircut every month unless they want to be shorn by the buxom Brenda with the anticipation that her ample bosom might just be pressed against your elbow as she does your fringe?
(I might have given too much away there).

An average haircut would be nearer £6 every 3 months making a saving of £345 after expenses. Still a tidy sum but well worth the chance to avail them of your latest holiday plans.
 

digger64

Member
The chooks and turkeys are produced in Pembrokeshire. The staff are from Polandshire though......
I think you will find that the words" some of " need to be inserted at the beginning , I was thinking nationally rather than one company though , I think the big chains will not want to be quite so reliant on imports as now to spread risk .
Would an expansion program be embarked upon without some sort of encouragement from higher up the chain with current uncertainties ?
 

Hereward

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Location
Peterborough
I suddenly noticed this gem - does a person who voted to leave the EU consider that they have a vote to change things, or that they are being entirely ignored?

Personally I'd rather be told the reality 'We don't believe in democracy so you're not getting to vote on anything, you're all too stupid to understand complicated stuff like us clever people in charge' than what we now have in the UK which is a sham democracy whereby we voted to leave the EU and are then promptly ignored.

Brexit has been a real eye opener - its shown that democracy doesn't exist in the UK any more (and not in many other Western so called democracies either) - you can either vote for parties and policies that those in power (ie real power, not the political talking heads) approve of, or if you vote for anyone or anything else they'll ignore you entirely.
Which is why Trump is causing such a stir, implementing his manifesto elected on, it's not something politicians are used to doing.
 

Y Fan Wen

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Location
N W Snowdonia
Who needs a haircut every month unless they want to be shorn by the buxom Brenda with the anticipation that her ample bosom might just be pressed against your elbow as she does your fringe?
(I might have given too much away there).

An average haircut would be nearer £6 every 3 months making a saving of £345 after expenses. Still a tidy sum but well worth the chance to avail them of your latest holiday plans.
I was amazed hearing about a 10 pound haircut every 3 weeks. Mrs Y does mine.
 

glasshouse

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Location
lothians
I always ask my barber, why do pensioners get reduced price haircuts? , when they are most likely the wealthy ones in our local town. Bought houses at the right time and many have final salary pensions, whereas the youth can’t afford houses and will have to work many more years to get a state pension , if indeed there is one in the future .
I suppose the obvious answer is they have very little hair to cut , but even so.
Pensioners are supposed to be poorer than those still working.
Another thing f**ked right up
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
I'm sorry to here of your problems in NZ @Kiwi Pete but its a relief to know that we aren't the only ones to mess things up...
Proportional representation does not seem to be the answer to the UKs problems, especially when you look at Scotland (which unless I'm being a prat has PR, (apologies to all Scots if I have this wrong))
What exactly is wrong with PR in scotland?
Its great, it even allows a few unelectable tories into holyrood parliament.
 
Who needs a haircut every month unless they want to be shorn by the buxom Brenda with the anticipation that her ample bosom might just be pressed against your elbow as she does your fringe?
(I might have given too much away there).

An average haircut would be nearer £6 every 3 months making a saving of £345 after expenses. Still a tidy sum but well worth the chance to avail them of your latest holiday plans.
That's all very well if you want to put up with long hair. I prefer close cropped.
Besides, as my friend pointed out, the thinning patch on top looks like a cock and balls, the shorter it is the less noticeable it is(y)
 

farmerm

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Location
Shropshire
Brexit has been a real eye opener - its shown that democracy doesn't exist in the UK any more (and not in many other Western so called democracies either) - you can either vote for parties and policies that those in power (ie real power, not the political talking heads) approve of, or if you vote for anyone or anything else they'll ignore you entirely.
Exactly the point I have tried to make to those who say Brexit means taking back control of our laws :banghead::banghead: Democracy is an illusion in a first past the post electoral system dominated by 2 parties..
 

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