The real cost of Brexit?

I admire the principal of the NHS but it has to enter the 21st century.
For all those needing hip or knee replacements pay a bit extra for a real part (you do not have to pay the whole op cost only the difference) and that way your leg will be only a couple of mm diff rather than an inch or more. NHS are still using the same design of hip replacements as from the 50's.
I forgot about our hard worked teachers, poor B's have to work 5 days a week for three quarters of the year teaching only 70% of the same numbers than in the 70's. 25% pay higher rate tax and to get the equivalent pension in the private sector they would have to contribute nearly 30% of their salaries. My heart bleeds for them NOT!
McD, the biggest youth employer in UK and Tesco, biggest employer in UK cannot find enough people to employ.
Not a surprise really as the girls teaching them on £30k+ a year cannot count, spell or punctuate never mind work out what a split infinitive is.
Don't stop now.

That's the NHS, teachers, immigrants, who's next on leaves list?
 
I'm everywhere.

I'm the bloke who nods along with your stuff at the mart.

The bloke who you think is "sound".

Yet you you want me gone.

All because I don't agree with you on here.

Leavers will get around to almost everyone eventually.

Nice country you got "back".
 

Ashtree

Member
We put in a vast amount of increased money to the NHS last year. What did we get. A bloody pay rise, no more doctors, no more nurses, no more beds but 4 or 5% more managers. Seeing as how they already have more than one per bed it was just what the NHS needed.
Our whole Civil Service is a racket and Brexit will flush the B's out. No more Sir Humphrey excuses about EU rules.
The whole Civil Service is grossly underworked, grossly overpaid never mind the B gold plated pension scheme with a 3.5 TRILLION black hole. Makes sir shifty and BHS look like chicken feed.
NHS problem is it is still living in the 40's and 50's work wise. Famous saying is if it was good enough in 1949 its still perfect now!

And of course it was the tyrants in Brussels who dictated to UK how many managers to have in the NHS, how many pay rises they got, etc, etc.
None of that was to do with domestic political inertia and incompetence.
 

jendan

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Where do you think i got that statement from! people who work on the front line, bragging about getting a fortune for doing nout, take your white knighting elsewhere

But i will reiterate, as chief virtue signalling above was moaning about, a minority might go, but the vast majority will stay, who will be replaced.

It seems to be a regular occurrence of remainers, over exaggerate everything in the hope someone might listen, nhs split up, world war 3 anything else I've missed off the list?
We put in a vast amount of increased money to the NHS last year. What did we get. A bloody pay rise, no more doctors, no more nurses, no more beds but 4 or 5% more managers. Seeing as how they already have more than one per bed it was just what the NHS needed.
Our whole Civil Service is a racket and Brexit will flush the B's out. No more Sir Humphrey excuses about EU rules.
The whole Civil Service is grossly underworked, grossly overpaid never mind the B gold plated pension scheme with a 3.5 TRILLION black hole. Makes sir shifty and BHS look like chicken feed.
NHS problem is it is still living in the 40's and 50's work wise. Famous saying is if it was good enough in 1949 its still perfect now!
Brexit wont flush any of them out!.Its the complete opposite.The Humphrey,s are rubbing their hands in glee. Theres going to be 000,s more of them,at an estimated cost of 5 billion! plus their pensions.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Everyone in the UK is an immigrant at one time or another
IMMIGRANT
Pronunciation (US):
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Dictionary entry overview: What does immigrant mean?

IMMIGRANT(noun)
The noun IMMIGRANT has 1 sense:

1. a person who comes to a country where they were not born in order to settle there

Familiarity information: IMMIGRANT used as a noun is very rare.

Dictionary entry details

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Meaning:

A person who comes to a country where they were not born in order to settle there

Classified under:

Nouns denoting people

Hypernyms ("immigrant" is a kind of...):

migrant; migrator (traveler who moves from one region or country to another)
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
IMMIGRANT
Pronunciation (US): View attachment 387424

Dictionary entry overview: What does immigrant mean?

IMMIGRANT(noun)
The noun IMMIGRANT has 1 sense:

1. a person who comes to a country where they were not born in order to settle there

Familiarity information: IMMIGRANT used as a noun is very rare.

Dictionary entry details

immigrant[BACK TO TOP]


Meaning:

A person who comes to a country where they were not born in order to settle there

Classified under:

Nouns denoting people

Hypernyms ("immigrant" is a kind of...):

migrant; migrator (traveler who moves from one region or country to another)


Did you find a dictionary (ie book with pages and covers) or as per usual the www?
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
What about them poor buggers across the Pacific, I 've already had a lecture on "Don't let them in!!!" I've always said we should look after refugees in our part of the world rather than ones from the other side of the world.....:rolleyes::whistle::LOL:
Agree. We employ quite a few from the pacific region under the RSE scheme, great workers and it helps the pacific region at the same time.
 
Brexit wont flush any of them out!.Its the complete opposite.The Humphrey,s are rubbing their hands in glee. Theres going to be 000,s more of them,at an estimated cost of 5 billion! plus their pensions.
Humph and co have been hiding behind europe for donkeys. Remember the 4 page doc about slaughter houses from Eu that became 84 pages out of Westminster. My guy said he could do anything but slaughter animals.
3.5TRILLION black hole in civil service pension fund. Like Greece 20% cut in their wages and 30% cut in pensions for starters. I voted Indie for Scotland as a sadist. The whole east end of glasgow would have been raking litter bins for food instead of watching sky and grunting and farting on McD's and diet coke. We couldn't afford them. Mind you they could have moved to Engerland and we might have missed them not.
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Next are all the doom mongers who reckon armagedon was in the offing, either lying or stupid.
BREXIT is the dogs nuts I am already 25% net margin up and have failed to find anybody who has suffered more than a week or two of uncertainty.
But it's not happened yet, why would you suffer?
 

Ashtree

Member
Next are all the doom mongers who reckon armagedon was in the offing, either lying or stupid.
BREXIT is the dogs nuts I am already 25% net margin up and have failed to find anybody who has suffered more than a week or two of uncertainty.

Wow. Brexit hasn't happened. The Brexit leaders can't decide when it will happen. Nobody Brexit leaders included knows the conditions on which will happen, when it happens IF it happens.

And you conclude your net margin is up because of this so called Brexit!!

Go on then, put some numbers up and your logic!!!
 

balerman

Member
Location
N Devon
I voted leave,have no regrets at all and I believe it will be for the best in the long run,especially for our profession,but I do think a lot of younger working people in this country need an almighty kick up the backside.I have seen 2 instances this week,talking to someone that delivers online shopping orders to people,said she hasn't had a day off for weeks cos everytime we get a sunny day half the workforce calls in sick.Same thing at a local pub/restaurant(admittedly part of a large chain)yesterday one of the sunniest and busiest days of the summer,so short of staff they could hardly serve any food,rainy day before,plenty of staff.Why has the work ethic of so many youngsters changed so much? I think they have been educated to expect much more from life,which is fine but they don't realise they have to earn it, foreign workers in this country aren't like that at all.
 
Some interesting stats there, but no reasons e.g why did the population fall for 4 consecutive years in 98 - 01 (end of subs??) and why is it now rocketing in the last two years?


Nothing to do with subs. They went in the mid 1980s (30 years ago).

The Australian economy was way ahead of NZ resulting in large numbers of Kiwis crossing the ditch to get work that paid significantly above the going rates in NZ. With the sudden downturn in the Asian economies having a major affect on Aussie mining (the backbone of their economy) thousands of Kiwis have been flocking home as the NZ economy has been charging ahead at almost twice the rate of Australia's. The same has happened with the Kiwis recently working in Europe. Couple this with migration of other nationalities, the 60K of migrants per annum will probably be exceeded again in the next few years.

Rock on I say, we could do with 20 million so the economy gets out of the clutches of heavy dependence on the volatile global commodity trading cycles. We do have plenty of room with only 4.7M people.
 

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