The Red Tractor ACCS referendum

[MrNoo]

It takes years of in breeding for people to think that RT has benefits !!

Unless you're farmer Stu's love child, you'd inherit that from birth!

 

[Clive]

In October last year we published the attached in Meat Management. Red Tractor 'demanded' a right of reply, which was published in the December edition the content of which was laughable! (sorry we don't have a copy of it)

i would have billed them or asked to see their certificates of journalism assurance before accepting a reply !

 

[manhill]

Caught a RT advert on the box last night. Must have cost a few bob to produce.I haven't seen it before.

 

[tullah]

Caught a RT advert on the box last night. Must have cost a few bob to produce.I haven't seen it before.

Purely for the purpose of being seen to be doing something. It was totally irrelevant and a waste of our money again.

 

[Henarar]

Purely for the purpose of being seen to be doing something. It was totally irrelevant and a waste of our money again.

why ?

 

[Old apprentice]

To purly try and justify themselves that is all.

 

[Henarar]

To purly try and justify themselves that is all.

which is best they spend on advertising or making up stupid new rules and enforcing them ?
one of the biggest complaints about RT is that the shopper doesn't know what it means so RT advertise to tell the shopper and get more complaints
I am no fan of RT and as far as I am concerned the whole thing would be better off scrapped but advertising is what they should have done from the start then RT may be worth the farmer having

 

[tullah]

which is best they spend on advertising or making up stupid new rules and enforcing them ?
one of the biggest complaints about RT is that the shopper doesn't know what it means so RT advertise to tell the shopper and get more complaints
I am no fan of RT and as far as I am concerned the whole thing would be better off scrapped but advertising is what they should have done from the start then RT may be worth the farmer having

They can advertise to their hearts content but it won't make a jot of difference to shoppers.

 

[Henarar]

They can advertise to their hearts content but it won't make a jot of difference to shoppers.

So shoppers take no notice of adverts
Lots of wasted money there then

 

[stroller]

I'm just filling in a grain passport for two loads going today when it suddenly struck me, why do I have to check the lorry before loading? As an assured haulier can I not trust the driver, or is their scheme not worth the paper items written on either?

 

[JP1]

How much does a full page colour advert on the back of last week’s FW cost?

No wonder FW want to court RT custom

 

[manhill]

To purly try and justify themselves that is all.

I think they're running scared. Just need to tell the public how they've been ripping off farmers for years. Oh, maybe not, a boycott wouldn't help anyone. A new organisation and new brand to compete with RT must be the way to provide a migration route. Now, what will be included in the new standards?

 

[SilliamWhale]

So shoppers take no notice of adverts
Lots of wasted money there then

The point is the "brand" is unable to command any premium for farmers. And its never going to because there is no trickle back to the producer who funds half of it at least, in fact the whole thing is designed not to reward farmers but to add extra costs and rules purely for access to market. Its pure spivvery

 

[Henarar]

The point is the "brand" is unable to command any premium for farmers. And its never going to because there is no trickle back to the producer who funds half of it at least, in fact the whole thing is designed not to reward farmers but to add extra costs and rules purely for access to market. Its pure spivvery

oh yes I agree that's the way it is but it didn't have to be like that.
would it also be right to blame the farmers that signed up first to FA when there was thirty bits of silver on offer ? after all if nobody had ever signed up there would be no such thing

 

[MrNoo]

oh yes I agree that's the way it is but it didn't have to be like that.
would it also be right to blame the farmers that signed up first to FA when there was thirty bits of silver on offer ? after all if nobody had ever signed up there would be no such thing

Agreed, I signed up as we were promised a "premium" but they quickly reneged on that and instead we are where we are now, getting market price for a load of rubbish and zero premium whatsoever but RT will gladly tell you it's a "Premium Product" when in fact it's nothing more than a scam

 

[farmerm]

Agreed, I signed up as we were promised a "premium" but they quickly reneged on that and instead we are where we are now, getting market price for a load of rubbish and zero premium whatsoever but RT will gladly tell you it's a "Premium Product" when in fact it's nothing more than a scam

The aim from the start was to get all or at least almost all farms assured, how did you expect there could be a continued premium once those late adopters like us where finally forced in? I do blame the early adopters for getting suckered in at the start!

 

[MrNoo]

The aim from the start was to get all or at least almost all farms assured, how did you expect there could be a continued premium once those late adopters like us where finally forced in? I do blame the early adopters for getting suckered in at the start!

One was never paid, even to the early adopters, all hot air

 

[bumkin]

it's like a protection racket if you aren't registered we won't buy your product so pay up, we are about to have our annual revue the bloke said he is coming tomorrow and we are up to our neck in lambing and spring work also trying to do a claim with the welsh office for capital works done and the geo picks are not working so I am under pressure from all angles and this chap says he wants to see the pa one and two certs, not just the registration numbers where the f-- k they are I don't know I some times wonder why we do it just at the moment I am well pist off I seem to be working my balls off just to provide jobs for the boys

 

[Wooly]

it's like a protection racket if you aren't registered we won't buy your product so pay up, we are about to have our annual revue the bloke said he is coming tomorrow and we are up to our neck in lambing and spring work also trying to do a claim with the welsh office for capital works done and the geo picks are not working so I am under pressure from all angles and this chap says he wants to see the pa one and two certs, not just the registration numbers where the f-- k they are I don't know I some times wonder why we do it just at the moment I am well pist off I seem to be working my balls off just to provide jobs for the boys

Just tell them you don't want to rejoin.


You can change your mind in a months time when you have more time for them................ if you haven't seen sense !

 

[tullah]

Agreed, I signed up as we were promised a "premium" but they quickly reneged on that and instead we are where we are now, getting market price for a load of rubbish and zero premium whatsoever but RT will gladly tell you it's a "Premium Product" when in fact it's nothing more than a scam

And our professional representatives at the NFU fell for it and encouraged members to join then joined the RT board to rake it in.