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[czechmate]

Plough it up and reseed , new start

I think baldrick is correct and pull a roll behind and the jobs a good un

 

[Ukjay]

Well, the thing is the damage that is troubling you, that you an see, is not actually where you can see but lower down, if that makes sense

It does, but the damage is roughly 2 foot down and not from the horses as the previous owners were not here long enough to cause that.

It was like I hit concrete when I was running some new drainage ladt year, the digger really struggled to cut in due to the ground being so compacted and hard, and why I'm looking at hiring a larger digger to do the septic tank drainage etc.

 

[czechmate]

I don't need to lump anything, as our old paddocks prior to moving here were not like this. People neglecting land and allowing animals on when the weather is seriously not right is the cause imho.

We managed well in our old place, and the sheep and harrows kept the paddocks in check, but we are trying to manage a situation whereby the previous owner let too many horses out through the winter, which has caused the damage... Ignorant management of the land to save on bedding...

If you imagine ruts from a tractor, you might try squashing the ground flat from the top but really you need to lift the compacted stuff below the rut

 

[czechmate]

It does, but the damage is roughly 2 foot down and not from the horses as the previous owners were not here long enough to cause that.

It was like I hit concrete when I was running some new drainage ladt year, the digger really struggled to cut in due to the ground being so compacted and hard, and why I'm looking at hiring a larger digger to do the septic tank drainage etc.

You need a slitter or even subsoiler with disc but of course they need a tractor with some weight

 

[bobk]

I think baldrick is correct and pull a roll behind and the jobs a good un

Depends if there's any grass to rejuvenate

 

[czechmate]

Depends if there's any grass to rejuvenate

In my experience it’s about impossible to kill grass but you/he can always throw some seed about

 

[bobk]

In my experience it’s about impossible to kill grass

 

[czechmate]

I’ve used a few k worth of herbicide today on cereals to kill grass - I never sowed any there

 

[bobk]

I’ve used a few k worth of herbicide today on cereals to kill grass - I never sowed any there

That's grass weed . not exactly productive

 

[czechmate]

That's grass weed . not exactly productive

With my system it’s mainly ryegrass. Anyway, levelling/decompacting and choosing grass varieties are different agendas

 

[Ukjay]

If you imagine ruts from a tractor, you might try squashing the ground flat from the top but really you need to lift the compacted stuff below the rut

Yes, I get that - but I'm struggling to understand how do the holes get levelled then, as your sward lifter leaves gaps, which I believe can leave some of the deep holes that your foot can basically go down and could result in another broken ankle for the boss - and then my life would be over.

 

[czechmate]

Yes, I get that - but I'm struggling to understand how do the holes get levelled then, as your sward lifter leaves gaps, which I believe can leave some of the deep holes that your foot can basically go down and could result in another broken ankle for the boss - and then my life would be over.

Yes, for your job you need a slitter with a roller

 

[Ukjay]

Yes, for your job you need a slitter with a roller

As well as, or just the slitter / roller, as I can ask locally if anyone does such a thing?

 

[czechmate]

Yes, I get that - but I'm struggling to understand how do the holes get levelled then, as your sward lifter leaves gaps, which I believe can leave some of the deep holes that your foot can basically go down and could result in another broken ankle for the boss - and then my life would be over.

I guess you are not looking at max output from the grass, so your simple solution would be a heavy flat roll. I am looking to do some myself, here,now. As the first replies said, from too wet to too dry is a blink of an eye. So, to answer your first question it’s almost when you can only just do what you want by stamping with your heel...

 

[czechmate]

As well as, or just the slitter / roller, as I can ask locally if anyone does such a thing?

Yes one pass tools are available

 

[Ukjay]

I guess you are not looking at max output from the grass, so your simple solution would be a heavy flat roll. I am looking to do some myself, here,now. As the first replies said, from too wet to too dry is a blink of an eye. So, to answer your first question it’s almost when you can only just do what you want by stamping with your heel...

Yes, do not need massive growth yet, as we have not acquired our own sheep at this time, as other projects are the higher importance ones, but we will be getting some in the future, for land management and the pot.

 

[czechmate]

Yes, do not need massive growth yet, as we have not acquired our own sheep at this time, as other projects are the higher importance ones, but we will be getting some in the future, for land management and the pot.

I don’t know if you have your own tractor and roll then, but, especially here, the difference between leaving quite bad marks with the tractor, then the roll having no effect at all is less than two weeks. Then add in wet patches , but best to go before they are dry enough and go around them

 

[Yale]

Just let the grass grow longer then you won’t see the hoof prints.

Lifes too short!

 

[Kevtherev]

Test soil ph bit of harrowing seeding and rolling surprising what can be achieved.
Sward lifting maybe helpful to remove compaction and aid drainage.

 

[lloyd]

It does, but the damage is roughly 2 foot down and not from the horses as the previous owners were not here long enough to cause that.

It was like I hit concrete when I was running some new drainage ladt year, the digger really struggled to cut in due to the ground being so compacted and hard, and why I'm looking at hiring a larger digger to do the septic tank drainage etc.

Welcome to Monmouthshire clay .