The squeeze on milk and meat continues...

[Red Fred]

I disagree...I think the general public are sensible enough to realise that a balanced diet which includes meat won’t cause cancer like tabs will...you only have to look at a smoker to see it’s not a healthy vice...

I think at the moment, we still have the upper hand as people are fed up with the preachy Vegan message (which seems to go much further than just veganism and now attacks all non alternative farming). For a bit of light relief, I was reading facebook yesterday and a news report from the Vegan Society fb page came up showing their huge poster in London. I joined in with the comments on their page as some are truly hateful towards us, but many other posters were standing up for meat too with very reasonable arguments pro farming. In the end one (Californian?) lady demanded furiously why so many meat-heads were on their page. Our industry was also described as "hellaciously destructive" in their words, so I advised them to get on their bikes, go for a cycle in the Dorset sunshine and OPEN THEIR B++++ EYES! If anyone wants a bit of sport, go to The vegan Soc. page

 

[DrWazzock]

Just to be clear nobody gives a fudge about saving the planet. They really don’t and never will. When folks will drive 6 miles for a coffee, dump their litter all along our roadside, fly to Spain for hols, buy a motorbike purely to drive round the roads for no purpose whatsoever and the other pointless shite things they do and buy then they will never give up meat or dairy in significant numbers. Judging by what I hear when I’m about and about at least half don’t even have a basic grasp of science or even in some cases reality.

 

[Cowabunga]

The point being that Big Macs as we know them, will no longer be available. The supply of meat will be severely curtailed. They will switch there offering to some lab produced rubber...

There’s big money behind doing just that. I mean mega-money.

 

[Beef farmer]

Just to be clear nobody gives a fudge about saving the planet. They really don’t and never will. When folks will drive 6 miles for a coffee, dump their litter all along our roadside, fly to Spain for hols, buy a motorbike purely to drive round the roads for no purpose whatsoever and the other pointless shite things they do and buy then they will never give up meat or dairy in significant numbers. Judging by what I hear when I’m about and about at least half don’t even have a basic grasp of science or even in some cases reality.

Amen

 

[Cowabunga]

Just to be clear nobody gives a fudge about saving the planet. They really don’t and never will. When folks will drive 6 miles for a coffee, dump their litter all along our roadside, fly to Spain for hols, buy a motorbike purely to drive round the roads for no purpose whatsoever and the other pointless shite things they do and buy then they will never give up meat or dairy in significant numbers. Judging by what I hear when I’m about and about at least half don’t even have a basic grasp of science or even in some cases reality.

I profoundly disagree. The younger generations of educated people are very very concerned with climate change, the environment, animal welfare if not ‘rights’ and all the highfolluted rubbish and wokiness that rides along with it. That’s even before the serious anti meat and milk propaganda war gets really serious and unrelenting. Which it will.

 

[Ukjay]

Ahem

Eat Just and Foodpanda Partner on World’s First Home Delivery of Cultured Meat

For the first time in history, consumers in Singapore will be able to get cultured meat delivered to their doorstep thanks to Eat Just and foodpanda.

www.businesswire.com

 

[Courier]

I agree , the job is buggerd , I’m please my kids have other jobs.

Still at least they will have a grounding in how to feed / euthanise themselves if / when the days of reckoning arrive...

 

[Hilly]

Still at least they will have a grounding in how to feed / euthanise themselves if / when the days of reckoning arrive...

I don’t think they will want to euthanise themselves some how , isn’t it farmers that have a high rate of that ? , Na best off out the way it’s gone going I’d say .

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

So meat and milk is bad for the environment. People were told in the 1960's that smoking increases the risk of cancer and early death


People mostly ignored that, they'll ignore this.

No one has really explained to me how feeding livestock on grass is better that growing crops with carbon intensive inputs and the subsequent carbon loss from soils.

This can only be about fossil fuels because any emissions from cattle are part of the carbon cycle. So if you don't grow carbon intensive crops, use carbon intensive fertiliser or feed inputs from deforested areas (soya, palm kernel , maize), any emissions are only recycling atmospheric co2.

What they aren't saying is anything about soil health when they talk about removing livestock.

Soil health comes under a different subject, when it's good to have livestock and more carbon is sequestered. But obviously that piece of news will have to come on a different day, as it's too complicated to talk about at the moment for fear of creating a grey area, which just wouldn't do

 

[Hilly]

Just to be clear nobody gives a fudge about saving the planet. They really don’t and never will. When folks will drive 6 miles for a coffee, dump their litter all along our roadside, fly to Spain for hols, buy a motorbike purely to drive round the roads for no purpose whatsoever and the other pointless shite things they do and buy then they will never give up meat or dairy in significant numbers. Judging by what I hear when I’m about and about at least half don’t even have a basic grasp of science or even in some cases reality.

Your not wrong .

 

[Tractortim]

Red meat is likely to be similar to what alcohol is now ie heavily taxed and consumed less by the younger generation, but for most there will alone a high demand. We should all focus on making it a high quality luxury product with a price tag that reflects this.

 

[RobJC]

https://www.ukfires.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Absolute-Zero-online.pdf

WEF want net-zero by 2050, government want net zero. People do not realise the impact.

Livestock farming is a easy target, a relatively small and poor industry with low employment, to sacrifice to help reach their goals.

Covid has been a means to accelerate on the path to net zero. Just compare to where we were 15 months ago, relentless propaganda and fear mongering, can shape an entire nation/nations. Still lockdowned when daily deaths with covid are below road deaths. How else do you reach zero in 29 years without restricting people's movements and freedoms?

Just to make my position clear: I despise the government/WEF/oppressors. To them we are worker ants.

 

[T7.wab]

I know the one talking is abit of a tool but i think the man hes talking about is a main threat of major change

 

[Swarfmonkey]

@RobJC - That graphic is from UK FIRES. A bunch from Cambridge, Oxford, Nottingham, Bath and Imperial that have jumped on the Climate Change gravy chain in order to get their hands on grant money. They're not geoscientists, ecologists, or climatologists. They're engineers and economists.

Look at their bios and you soon see how limited their knowledge of such a complex subject is.

 

[stroller]

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WEF want net-zero by 2050, government want net zero. People do not realise the impact.

Livestock farming is a easy target, a relatively small and poor industry with low employment, to sacrifice to help reach their goals.

Covid has been a means to accelerate on the path to net zero. Just compare to where we were 15 months ago, relentless propaganda and fear mongering, can shape an entire nation/nations. Still lockdowned when daily deaths with covid are below road deaths. How else do you reach zero in 29 years without restricting people's movements and freedoms?

Just to make my position clear: I despise the government/WEF/oppressors. To them we are worker ants.

If all flying is going to stop and ships as well just where the f**k do they think food is going to come from,?

 

[Cowabunga]

I know the one talking is abit of a tool but i think the man hes talking about is a main threat of major change

Most of the comments about Bill Gates are so much bullpoo. Just because some clowns wrote it and another made a video about it, doesn't make it true. The nonsense about an agenda to privatise land made me laugh, because it already is privatised in India. It is often at a small scale but Bill is correct in that such small scale farming does lock people into poverty. It is the reason that so few people are left farming in the UK and so many of those that have given up and certainly those still farming do know this and it explains why so many are struggling to get ever bigger. That's just the basic business economics of producing any, or most basic commodities.
Anyone with an ounce of knowledge in economics and business knows this and realises what Bill Gates is trying to achieve. That's a less agrarian and more prosperous economy for the benefit of the people living at that lower end of the poverty scale in those countries, where even owning a bike can potentially increase a family's income significantly.

 

[Cowabunga]

If all flying is going to stop and ships as well just where the fudge do they think food is going to come from,?

They haven't thought that deeply about it.

 

[jondear]

As long as Big Macs are available no one will give a fudge....the drive through is continuously jammed when you drive past

Yes but I can see a tax coming . livestock is going to take the brunt while other larger industry gets away with it . While massive corporations who have a vested interests in meat alternatives will take up the share guilt tripping the public on making a better world for their kids!

 

[jondear]

As long as Big Macs are available no one will give a fudge....the drive through is continuously jammed when you drive past

Yes but I can see a tax coming . livestock is going to take the brunt while other larger industry gets away with it . While massive corporations who have a vested interests in meat alternatives will take up the share guilt tripping the public on making a better world for their kids!

 

[Hilly]

Yes but I can see a tax coming . livestock is going to take the brunt while other larger industry gets away with it . While massive corporations who have a vested interests in meat alternatives will take up the share guilt tripping the public on making a better world for their kids!

Is their anything left for livestock to give ? Won’t be very big tax and boom all gone .