The Tories are not working...

[Bongodog]

Filling stations have always "run out" especially small rural ones that have small storage capacity and very little clout with the suppliers, even the large ones sometimes run out of some grades.
The switch from E5 to E10 may also have had an effect with small stations with only one tank emptying fully before refilling

 

[arcobob]

Filling stations have always "run out" especially small rural ones that have small storage capacity and very little clout with the suppliers, even the large ones sometimes run out of some grades.
The switch from E5 to E10 may also have had an effect with small stations with only one tank emptying fully before refilling

Our local Tesco announced closure for five weeks about three weeks ago. The reason given was tank replacement. This Tesco is barely 20 years old so I can only conclude that they were not big enough in the first place as they frequently ran out.
There are too many grades with doubtful benefits trying to extract more money. It was often said that supermarkets only bought bottom of the tank bargains.

 

[Ncap]

Whatever the reason, empty shelves and fuel shortage/absence appears to be a very English phenomenon despite the fact that around Europe generally the shortfall in HGV drivers is well established. They just seem to manage it better.
The cultural insensitivity (damn ignorance) of the plan to invite the very people we apparently despise to come back and help us have a christmas and kick them back again is nowhere more visible than the fact that the end date (24.12.) IS christmas for most of Europe, not the 25th as here. So the drivers would have no chance of getting home for their own celebration.

 

[Ashtree]

Two decades of devolution have been disastrous for health & social care in NI

7 major reviews *not* implemented
Waiting lists 100x that of England (30x pop)
6+ yr waits for care
Highest spend in UK with worst outcomes
No workforce planning
Staffing crisis

So what’s your point?
Two decades of devolution a disaster!
Previous 8 decades of both direct rule and Unionist rule, were a disaster!

QED….?????

 

[Woolless]

You could be right, this more appropriate?

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I'm looking forward to the coverage of Grant Shapps trying to find his arse with both hands

 

[oil barron]

The biggest mistake the government have made is Furlough. $70Billion spent making Uk.gov the largest employer the last 18 months to keep people at home on over inflated wages. It’s destroyed supply chains, created a class divide and crippled the next two generations with debt.

It was needed in 2020 but should have been wrapped up long before now. The imperialist tones that they set, please Europeans come over and do our shitty jobs while we pay 2 million people to stay at home on more money and protect their feather bedded lifestyles is horrendous.

 

[robs1]

Whatever the reason, empty shelves and fuel shortage/absence appears to be a very English phenomenon despite the fact that around Europe generally the shortfall in HGV drivers is well established. They just seem to manage it better.
The cultural insensitivity (damn ignorance) of the plan to invite the very people we apparently despise to come back and help us have a christmas and kick them back again is nowhere more visible than the fact that the end date (24.12.) IS christmas for most of Europe, not the 25th as here. So the drivers would have no chance of getting home for their own celebration.

Mrs has just been shopping she said no empty shelves and hasn't seen any yet,that said we own a holiday flat in a block in Bournemouth which has a local co op store under, that has had empty shelves in it several times this summer when we've been down to clean and changeover guests, insure the bbc would love to film the empty shelves but if course would fail to mention this shop always seems to have empty shelves and had had since it opened four years ago. I've not seen anyone in the UK starving yet, most of the population could do with one day a week without food.

 

[Woolless]

The biggest mistake the government have made is Furlough. $70Billion spent making Uk.gov the largest employer the last 18 months to keep people at home on over inflated wages. It’s destroyed supply chains, created a class divide and crippled the next two generations with debt.

It was needed in 2020 but should have been wrapped up long before now. The imperialist tones that they set, please Europeans come over and do our shitty jobs while we pay 2 million people to stay at home on more money and protect their feather bedded lifestyles is horrendous.

No way that furlough should have continued with one million job vacancies. Madness!

 

[oil barron]

No way that furlough should have continued with one million job vacancies. Madness!

It’s unbelievable really. And during it all there has been pretty much no critique from the media, the opposition or any of the devolved governments.
Spazzy Biden tried to do the same thing in america, but all of the state governors started to refuse to implement the program in the spring time when there were more job vacancies then people looking.

 

[HatsOff]

The biggest mistake the government have made is Furlough. $70Billion spent making Uk.gov the largest employer the last 18 months to keep people at home on over inflated wages. It’s destroyed supply chains, created a class divide and crippled the next two generations with debt.

It was needed in 2020 but should have been wrapped up long before now. The imperialist tones that they set, please Europeans come over and do our shitty jobs while we pay 2 million people to stay at home on more money and protect their feather bedded lifestyles is horrendous.

Remember it was a support to businesses not individuals.

Businesses either had to make someone redundant (and pay redundancy) or they could place them onto furlough.

Contractually if they weren't made redundant they had to keep paying their wage, even if there was no work to be done.

 

[nivilla1982]

So what’s your point?
Two decades of devolution a disaster!
Previous 8 decades of both direct rule and Unionist rule, were a disaster!

QED….?????

Waiting lists actually fell under direct rule.
The point is/was. It has been well known that the NI health service has been in need of reform/work. However various health minsters of a number of parities made little headway into actually achieving anything despite the significant sums of money issue from HM Treasury.

 

[oil barron]

Remember it was a support to businesses not individuals.

Businesses either had to make someone redundant (and pay redundancy) or they could place them onto furlough.

Contractually if they weren't made redundant they had to keep paying their wage, even if there was no work to be done.

I don’t believe that’s correct. This is the initial statement when Rishi announced Furlough. No mention of helping business not have to pay redundancy.

 

[le bon paysan]

Whatever the reason, empty shelves and fuel shortage/absence appears to be a very English phenomenon despite the fact that around Europe generally the shortfall in HGV drivers is well established. They just seem to manage it better.
The cultural insensitivity (damn ignorance) of the plan to invite the very people we apparently despise to come back and help us have a christmas and kick them back again is nowhere more visible than the fact that the end date (24.12.) IS christmas for most of Europe, not the 25th as here. So the drivers would have no chance of getting home for their own celebration.

While Europe have a driver shortage, it's 400,000 short in a population of 500 million . Spread over 29 countries. While the UK is 100,000 short in a population of 67 million. .

 

[Ncap]

While Europe have a driver shortage, it's 400,000 short in a population of 500 million . Spread over 29 countries. While the UK is 100,000 short in a population of 67 million. .

Why is it I can feel a 'clap for fuel tanker drivers' campaign coming up?

 

[HatsOff]

I don’t believe that’s correct. This is the initial statement when Rishi announced Furlough. No mention of helping business not have to pay redundancy.
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The money from furlough was only ever paid direct to businesses. The actual employee was only ever paid from their employer.

Business only have two choices - make someone redundant or put them on furlough. You can't just tear up an employment contract and say I'm not paying you anymore.

The effect of furlough was to allow companies to keep people employed under their existing employment contracts even if there was no work for them to do. Companies then:
- didn't have to pay redundancy
- didn't have to recruit people once the crisis was over
- didn't cause massive upheaval to their businesses

I'm not saying the employees didn't benefit - after all, companies are just an organisation of people.

 

[le bon paysan]

Why is it I can feel a 'clap for fuel tanker drivers' campaign coming up?

You mean it's not Thursday at 8pm?

 

[Muck Spreader]

Why is it I can feel a 'clap for fuel tanker drivers' campaign coming up?

Isn't Boris already ahead of you with his million love letters to HGV drivers.

Boris Johnson love-bombs HGV drivers with letters and talk of pay rise

Ministers are urging up to 40,000 retired hauliers to return to action in a last-gasp bid to save Christmas, as retailers warned the Government it has 10 days to prepare for the festive season.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[oil barron]

The money from furlough was only ever paid direct to businesses. The actual employee was only ever paid from their employer.

Business only have two choices - make someone redundant or put them on furlough. You can't just tear up an employment contract and say I'm not paying you anymore.

The effect of furlough was to allow companies to keep people employed under their existing employment contracts even if there was no work for them to do. Companies then:
- didn't have to pay redundancy
- didn't have to recruit people once the crisis was over
- didn't cause massive upheaval to their businesses

I'm not saying the employees didn't benefit - after all, companies are just an organisation of people.

Yes, that is the mechanics of how it is applied. I would still argue the intent is mostly aimed at helping workers ensure they could maintain their lifestyles rather than to prevent Business from having to pay redundancy, which is not a huge amount under statutory UK law.

 

[le bon paysan]

Isn't Boris already ahead of you with his million love letters to HGV drivers.

Boris Johnson love-bombs HGV drivers with letters and talk of pay rise

Ministers are urging up to 40,000 retired hauliers to return to action in a last-gasp bid to save Christmas, as retailers warned the Government it has 10 days to prepare for the festive season.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Well, it will save them having to panic buy bog roll

 

[br jones]

i do believe that all these lucky furlouged workers can do when returning to work is to book the holidays they are now due !