The truth about Vegans

[manhill]

Why don't these fad groups get a life. Were they starved of attention as babies?
Too much time on their hands. Conscript them and send them to Afghanistan.

 

[CharcoalWally]

https://www.efanews.eu/item/6053

Just read this and shared on social media. People deserve to be fully informed about the powerful, wealthy groups that lie hidden behind the public face of these organisations , and to decide for themselves whether they are motivated by lofty enviro- idealism, or rapacious greed.

If there's money to be made, then where's the harm in a little world wide social engineering.

 

[JP1]

 

[ISCO]

Just caught the end of BBC Breakfast interview this morning in which someone, who seemed to be older sensible scientist type although not sure, was advocating that red meat should be only eaten perhaps once a month. He likened it to his eating of lobster which he loves but only eats twice a year.
Not Vegan I know however, all very negative for livestock farming and needs countering.

 

[Shutesy]

Just caught the end of BBC Breakfast interview this morning in which someone, who seemed to be older sensible scientist type although not sure, was advocating that red meat should be only eaten perhaps once a month. He likened it to his eating of lobster which he loves but only eats twice a year.
Not Vegan I know however, all very negative for livestock farming and needs countering.

There whole phone in hour this morning on 5live is discussing changing diets. So basically all the vegans are on promoting there diet, slagging off farming and fishing. The presenter Nicky Campbell is agreeing with them it seems and very little in the way of a counter arguement from a farmer etc, just ridiculous, essentially a whole hour of vegan promotion on mainstream bbc radio.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Just caught the end of BBC Breakfast interview this morning in which someone, who seemed to be older sensible scientist type although not sure, was advocating that red meat should be only eaten perhaps once a month. He likened it to his eating of lobster which he loves but only eats twice a year.
Not Vegan I know however, all very negative for livestock farming and needs countering.

I could probably cut beef down to twice a week if I had to...but twice a year

 

[jondear]

Trouble is it's a bit like the badger cull the more You argue the more fanatics respond!

 

[Johnnyboxer]

Why don't these fad groups get a life.

Were they starved of attention as babies?

Too much time on their hands.

Conscript them and send them to Afghanistan.

Hardly a constructive point of view

He likened it to his eating of lobster which he loves but only eats twice a year.

Not Vegan I know however, all very negative for livestock farming and needs countering.

I fear it is too late

At least one day a week, we have a totally meat-free day and have done so for at least 5 years

Cutting out red meat wouldn't be a hardship in our household

 

[Dave6170]

It is january afterall, diet month. Summer will soon be here and the bbqs will be fired up again. and veganuary will be forgotten

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Hardly a constructive point of view



I fear it is too late

At least one day a week, we have a totally meat-free day and have done so for at least 5 years

Cutting out red meat wouldn't be a hardship in our household

And what do you farm?

 

[exmoor dave]

Just read this and shared on social media. People deserve to be fully informed about the powerful, wealthy groups that lie hidden behind the public face of these organisations , and to decide for themselves whether they are motivated by lofty enviro- idealism, or rapacious greed.

If there's money to be made, then where's the harm in a little world wide social engineering.

I saw a Quorn ad a few days ago and I see they've now added the line "healthy planet" to their "healthy protein" strap line...... all very noble .... intil of course you realise Quorn is owned and manufacturing (i feel thats a better term in this case than produced) by a multinational conglomerate
I very much doubt any sort of "saving the planet" is really behind the promotion, rather its the fact they have a product that can be grown in a vat under complete control, I assume with a high degree of control of the inputs required.
Its a bland mass produced product.... perfect for bland mass producted ready meals.
Unlike meat, particularly red meet, where there's many more variables and the control is not particularly in the hands of these multinational types.


Only fly in the oitment is actually getting folk to eat the fowl tasteless stuff (quorn) when meat tastes so damn good!

 

[ISCO]

I saw a Quorn ad a few days ago and I see they've now added the line "healthy planet" to their "healthy protein" strap line...... all very noble .... intil of course you realise Quorn is owned and manufacturing (i feel thats a better term in this case than produced) by a multinational conglomerate
I very much doubt any sort of "saving the planet" is really behind the promotion, rather its the fact they have a product that can be grown in a vat under complete control, I assume with a high degree of control of the inputs required.
Its a bland mass produced product.... perfect for bland mass producted ready meals.
Unlike meat, particularly red meet, where there's many more variables and the control is not particularly in the hands of these multinational types.


Only fly in the oitment is actually getting folk to eat the fowl tasteless stuff (quorn) when meat tastes so damn good!

I was talking to a vegetarian, not vegan, who had tried the Greggs vegan sausage role and who thought it was disgusting.

 

[ISCO]

Hardly a constructive point of view



I fear it is too late

At least one day a week, we have a totally meat-free day and have done so for at least 5 years

Cutting out red meat wouldn't be a hardship in our household

Cutting out Any one particular food group from your diet is not particularly hard to do for anyone particularly as there are more and more alternatives on the market.
As livestock farmers we need to defend and promote our products to make sure it is not red meat that is cut by too many people as a fad or whim.
Once people get used to doing without it becomes a habit.

 

[Paddington]

All these meat substitutes are designed to look like meat, have a meat texture, cook like meat and hopefully taste like meat to be eaten by people who think eating meat is bad for them and is killing the planet. If this is the case shouldn't Quorn type products have a green or purple dye in them or any colour that couldn't possibly be meat ?

 

[CharcoalWally]

Just caught the end of BBC Breakfast interview this morning in which someone, who seemed to be older sensible scientist type although not sure, was advocating that red meat should be only eaten perhaps once a month. He likened it to his eating of lobster which he loves but only eats twice a year.
Not Vegan I know however, all very negative for livestock farming and needs countering.

If you're thinking of the same guy I am, then he is a Harvard professor who is one of the people discussed in the article that @Macsky provided the link for above.

https://www.efanews.eu/item/6053

So this particular character is allied in the powerful pro plant diet, anti meat conglomerate that the article exposes . A mixture of scientists , public leaders, ( Bill Clinton , apparently, will turn out to address your vegan conference if you pay him, billions, I think it was?) and, in the background, big business .

This particular proffessors claim is that 1 in 3 deaths could be avoided by dropping meat from out diet. So, think about it. 33% of the population is dying from eating meat. Nothing else. Just meat.

I wonder in 50 years time will we have claims about how many deaths could be avoided by adding meat to your diet?

 

[case 5140]

On BBC now... say,you can eat 1 burger and 1 egg a week...etc.....at the end it says we could save 11m people a year .........So wtf are we meant ?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

One egg a week I have 3 when I do scrambled egg for breakfast

 

[Princess Pooper]

One egg a week I have 3 when I do scrambled egg for breakfast

Even one of the report authors admitted he has 2 eggs for breakfast every day - and it didn't mention if he intended to change!!!!!

 

[Paddington]

Hmm, one egg per week, by this year's consumption it should be August 2019 by now.

 

[Cowgirl]

It may be more terrifying than we think. Have a look at this - sorry it’s a bit fuzzy but have a look at the list of donors these people have! Also their plans to change the world’s diet - it’s actually social engineering.