The truth about Vegans

[Northeastfarmer]

I personally know 2 vegans, my god daughter being one of them

Also I know some people who are vegetarian and have chosen it later in life, one is a farmer too and he prefers the healthier lifestyle without meat

Personally I couldn't be Vegan, as I like dairy and eggs too much...................but most weeks I have at least 2 complete vegetarian (no meat, but dairy) days
On the other 4-5 days, a week I'll happily have roast beef or a chicken jalfrezi (at the Indian restaurant) or a steak and chips/steak pie or some nice sea bass etc
I'm open to all cuisine.................when in York we often eat at a small Vegan/Vegetarian cafe called Goji on Monkbar as the the food is simply delicious, nutritious and the flavours are tantalising to your tastebuds

@Northeastfarmer - are you open to all lifestyles & cuisines? Does vegetarianism feel a threat to you?

What do you mean healthier lifestyle? Why it healthier? Plenty vegans I’ve seen don’t look that healthy and regularly take supplements such as b12 due to their diet
My nanna is 103 and has eaten meat all her life...how long do you want to live?

I’m open to all ideas and will also miss meat one day a week but wouldn’t rule it out all together as I believe it’s an important part to a healthy lifestyle along side fresh fruit vegetables and fish

 

[Cowgirl]

Epidemiological associations between meat eating and cancer and other diseases are extremely weak, eg much lower than that between smoking and lung cancer. The problem is that meat eating, since that is very common, cannot be differentiated from other lifestyle choices eg people who eat a lot of burgers may also eat a lot of chips, may be obese, may not take much exercise etc etc

 

[SLA]

I’m sure the reason vegetarian options are more popular is because of the push to eat more fruit and vegetables. I personally see there being more of a rise in grow your own and local produce. Just because someone eats a vegetarian/vegan meal doesn’t mean they’ve given up meat. They could well be having it with a steak on the side

 

[Top Tip.]

I personally know 2 vegans, my god daughter being one of them

Also I know some people who are vegetarian and have chosen it later in life, one is a farmer too and he prefers the healthier lifestyle without meat

Personally I couldn't be Vegan, as I like dairy and eggs too much...................but most weeks I have at least 2 complete vegetarian (no meat, but dairy) days
On the other 4-5 days, a week I'll happily have roast beef or a chicken jalfrezi (at the Indian restaurant) or a steak and chips/steak pie or some nice sea bass etc
I'm open to all cuisine.................when in York we often eat at a small Vegan/Vegetarian cafe called Goji on Monkbar as the the food is simply delicious, nutritious and the flavours are tantalising to your tastebuds

@Northeastfarmer - are you open to all lifestyles & cuisines? Does vegetarianism feel a threat to you?

I know 1 vegan and I have discussed the subject with him,he was quite open and frank,telling me that his diet was killing him. I don’t know the ins and outs of why this was so but he said that his doctor had pleaded with him to revert to a diet containing meat and dairy.

 

[Bury the Trash]

chilli con carne with white rice tonight which i blinkin love but i constantly ask her not to put them beans in ... they have such a blandness,poor chewy texture,overal very unsatisfying on the palate.....
.....and they make me blowoff

 

[Gong Farmer]

.....and they make me blowoff

That would be ironic, get rid of livestock because of the methane they give off but replace it with similar gaseous escapes from vegans' derrieres.

 

[SLA]

Unfortunately “people” tend to believe whatever they want to believe, with out actually researching the information behind the “facts”.
The whole phenomenon of the veggie fad is MASSIVELY exaggerated by those who support it and most sensible people dismiss it as it is so ridiculous, another case of the vocal minority.

 

[DRC]

The bbc are still very much publicising it, with two vegan chefs on Michael Balls radio show yesterday, and even midlands today having a vegan guest on. Both said livestock farming was causing environmental problems. At least nick Owen asked about the air miles involved with things such as Avocados

 

[Northeastfarmer]

I’m seriously considering not paying my tv licence next year for the bias dross they put on

 

[Barleycorn]

The BBC and London generally are in their own cosmopolitan bubble. Totally unaware about where their food comes from, readily jump on the latest craze or bandwagon. It's so sad that with the strides that we as an industry are making, re-introducing pasture fed animals onto impoverished arable soils and improving organic matter / carbon sequestration, yet these townies are championing a diet that is self inflicted malnutrition, served by imported food grown by non sustainable methods flown half way across the world.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

This country needs a famine

 

[Johnnyboxer]

I’m open to all ideas and will also miss meat one day a week but wouldn’t rule it out all together as I believe it’s an important part to a healthy lifestyle along side fresh fruit vegetables and fish

Me too, I eat all types of foods - meat/fruit/veg/salad/nuts/eggs/dairy and of course.............chocolate

It's not me you have to convince though.............as I am an omnivore

 

[Johnnyboxer]

I’m sure the reason vegetarian options are more popular is because of the push to eat more fruit and vegetables.
I personally see there being more of a rise in grow your own and local produce.
Just because someone eats a vegetarian/vegan meal doesn’t mean they’ve given up meat.
They could well be having it with a steak on the side

Exactly

 

[Johnnyboxer]

Bangers and mash, sprouts and broccoli and onion gravy here for tea tonight

Very nice and tasty

 

[egbert]

This country needs a famine

An interesting thing about that word.
Nowadays we associate it with hot/parched dry conditions, al la Ethiopia in the 80's.
But historic famines in Europe were generally about very wet summers.
It's easily understandable to us, but not to many urbanites.

 

[Bootneck]

My wife has 3 sisters. One has been vegan for years, she visits us but has never bothered to look round the farm ( livestock, permanent pasture) even when invited to. She then goes home and posts images on Facebook of horrendous factory farms in China etc saying look at the reality of farming, when she has not bothered to look when it’s in front of her. Another sister in law is doing veganuary, convinced it is helping to save the planet. Buying processed vegan ‘cheese’ and quorn etc, not a clue about the realities of a vegan planet. The amount of propaganda these two are exposed to on the bbc, internet etc is overwhelming.
Also Some friends of mine have an acre of my land rent free, they grow vegetables for a box scheme using a horse to plough etc. They approached a vegan restaurant in Brighton to supply high quality organic veg, but when the owners heard about the horse they were thrown out for enslaving animals! Beggars belief!

 

[Steevo]

My wife has 3 sisters. One has been vegan for years, she visits us but has never bothered to look round the farm ( livestock, permanent pasture) even when invited to. She then goes home and posts images on Facebook of horrendous factory farms in China etc saying look at the reality of farming, when she has not bothered to look when it’s in front of her. Another sister in law is doing veganuary, convinced it is helping to save the planet. Buying processed vegan ‘cheese’ and quorn etc, not a clue about the realities of a vegan planet. The amount of propaganda these two are exposed to on the bbc, internet etc is overwhelming.
Also Some friends of mine have an acre of my land rent free, they grow vegetables for a box scheme using a horse to plough etc. They approached a vegan restaurant in Brighton to supply high quality organic veg, but when the owners heard about the horse they were thrown out for enslaving animals! Beggars belief!

I’m curious if the owners have any pets.

 

[Bootneck]

Yep, the fully vegan sister has a cat and a small rat dog, the temporary vegan sister has a cat. The trouble is if I engage in a rational debate and point out the flaws in their philosophy I get grief from the whole family including my wife. It’s a case of let them do what they want, no matter how stupid.

 

[Bootneck]

And the flicking mother in law who lives on the new forest, she won’t buy meat from the local farm shop in her village cos she hates the thought that she might have seen the poor pig / cow grazing on the common land in front of her house. No problem with meat from Tesco’s though!

 

[Steevo]

Yep, the fully vegan sister has a cat and a small rat dog, the temporary vegan sister has a cat. The trouble is if I engage in a rational debate and point out the flaws in their philosophy I get grief from the whole family including my wife. It’s a case of let them do what they want, no matter how stupid.

And the vegan restaurant?