The Vegan dilema

TheTallGuy

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Location
Cambridgeshire
Well, what do I say to this? (And yes, that's me at top :) )Mark Vincent you lot just constantly lie....all the peer reviewed studies and scientific data show plant based is better than meat and dairy diets....not to mention the moral justification. Its hardly meadows....its grass,grass and grass (would have been woodland before) . Animal farming takes up 74% of UK land mass,a ridiculous amount of land. Land that could be woodland and many other things. Not to mention the pollution of our waterways,climate footprint of animal products and huge amount public money propping up animal farmers. If its your job or all you know of course you will defend the status quo
74% of UK land mass is not taken up by animal farming https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41901297.amp
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_the_United_Kingdom

75% of UK agricultural land is livestock oriented, but that's because much of that land isn't suited to arable practices & even if we accept lower yields and higher costs, that would result in large areas being turned into arable mono-cultures that require the use of chemicals and artificial fertilisers in order to sustain production and destroy the carbon sink of permanent pasture...
 

primmiemoo

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Location
Devon
74% of UK land mass is not taken up by animal farming https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41901297.amp
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_the_United_Kingdom

75% of UK agricultural land is livestock oriented, but that's because much of that land isn't suited to arable practices & even if we accept lower yields and higher costs, that would result in large areas being turned into arable mono-cultures that require the use of chemicals and artificial fertilisers in order to sustain production and destroy the carbon sink of permanent pasture...

No, no, no ~ you're not getting it. That 75% is used to wrong foot waverers, and link dastardly livestock farming and livestock farmers to perception of greed and injustice towards our budding vegan urban hero who just needs a little push. The promised land has no livestock farming. Remove the middle animal is the aim. All that spare land is there to rewild...
Let's not forget the political conclusions drawn by Poore, which is now a vegan "gospel".
 
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No, no, no ~ you're not getting it. That 75% is used to wrong foot waverers, and link dastardly livestock farming and livestock farmers to perception of greed and injustice towards our budding vegan urban hero who just needs a little push. The promised land has no livestock farming. Remove the middle animal is the aim. All that spare land is there to rewild...
Let's not forget the political conclusions drawn by Poore, which is now a vegan "gospel".
As with so much social media content, a large part of the thinking is "I'll have a bit of it as someone else has more than me". It is easy to destroy but impossible to bring back once its gone.
 

roscoe erf

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Livestock Farmer
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teslacoils

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire

I suppose the ethical vegan dilemma is, if your child/parent/spouse was dying, would you keep them alive at the cost of an animal?

A raft of wild vegans would find less support if they were blockading hearts to keep folk alive.
 

Paddington

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Location
Soggy Shropshire

I suppose the ethical vegan dilemma is, if your child/parent/spouse was dying, would you keep them alive at the cost of an animal?

A raft of wild vegans would find less support if they were blockading hearts to keep folk alive.
He is making a good recovery apart from sudden urges to chew surgical wellies.
 

primmiemoo

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Location
Devon

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slackjawedyokel

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
I thought the BBC had more or less given up their obvious livestock bashing (although the lower level drip-drip continues). Two or three years ago they seemed to squeeze a spurious pro-vegan/anti livestock story into every bunch of news headlines.
Alas now here we have a BBC produced hatchet job on the dairy industry:
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

  • 0 %

    Votes: 78 42.9%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 63 34.6%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 30 16.5%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 5 2.7%

Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

  • 1,286
  • 1
As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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