The Vegetarian Butcher

[Jerry]

I don’t have a problem with a vegetarian or vegan diet. Each to their own and I’m glad we are all different. Life would be boring if not.

But I can’t get around the fact that meat is meat. And vegetables are vegetables.

I’ve never heard of a Vegetarian Butcher......suppose the closest would be a green grocer surely??

Some of the comments on Facebook by the company are hilarious. “We love meat so we created vegetarian meat”????

Isn’t this an oxymoron!!

Interesting when you look behind the brand. Big business is pushing this, not for some ideological reason, but for money....?

https://www.facebook.com/102169603276682/posts/1326219574205006

 

[Northeastfarmer]

I might open a shop called the butchering green grocer!

 

[Cowabunga]

I don’t have a problem with a vegetarian or vegan diet. Each to their own and I’m glad we are all different. Life would be boring if not.

But I can’t get around the fact that meat is meat. And vegetables are vegetables.

I’ve never heard of a Vegetarian Butcher......suppose the closest would be a green grocer surely??

Some of the comments on Facebook by the company are hilarious. “We love meat so we created vegetarian meat”????

Isn’t this an oxymoron!!

Interesting when you look behind the brand. Big business is pushing this, not for some ideological reason, but for money....?

https://www.facebook.com/102169603276682/posts/1326219574205006

As I have recently mentioned in other threads on this forum, I'm afraid there will be exponential and very rapid growth in this kind of food which will really hurt the livestock sector and, to a slightly lesser extent grain producers, in a much shorter time frame than most people realise. There is indeed very big money being invested in research, development and, soon, production of non-land-based protein [meat and milk substitute] production.

It is the next revolution in food production and it has already started.

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

As I have recently mentioned in other threads on this forum, I'm afraid there will be exponential and very rapid growth in this kind of food which will really hurt the livestock sector and, to a slightly lesser extent grain producers, in a much shorter time frame than most people realise.
It is the next revolution in food production and it has already started.

I am much less concerned about this than you seem to be.
There has been growth in Vegan and to a lesser extent vegetarianism but this has been from a very low base. The climate change people have probably influenced this more by the number of educational establishments that have misguidedly taken beef off the menu.

My reason for not seeing this as a major threat is when you look at these so called meat alternatives they are full of artificial ingredients many of which will probably be claimed to be bad or even dangerous to peoples health, a bit like Vaping.
It is interesting that McDonalds have not gone down the meat alternative on the basis that good quality, natural ingredients are more important and healthy than something that has been manufactured in a factory.

In much of the world finding good quality protein is difficult and often expensive, lamb and beef are luxury products and pork will become more so as ASF takes out more pigs in the world.
The local butchers and wholesalers I supply have not seen any noticeable drop in demand for lamb and beef, in fact beef sales have increased on the back of low prices.

The next food revolution in the world will be price and demand led, the Asian market for quality protein is enormous and most of that will still come from meat and not Veg!

 

[Cowabunga]

I am much less concerned about this than you seem to be.
There has been growth in Vegan and to a lesser extent vegetarianism but this has been from a very low base. The climate change people have probably influenced this more by the number of educational establishments that have misguidedly taken beef off the menu.

My reason for not seeing this as a major threat is when you look at these so called meat alternatives they are full of artificial ingredients many of which will probably be claimed to be bad or even dangerous to peoples health, a bit like Vaping.
It is interesting that McDonalds have not gone down the meat alternative on the basis that good quality, natural ingredients are more important and healthy than something that has been manufactured in a factory.

In much of the world finding good quality protein is difficult and often expensive, lamb and beef are luxury products and pork will become more so as ASF takes out more pigs in the world.
The local butchers and wholesalers I supply have not seen any noticeable drop in demand for lamb and beef, in fact beef sales have increased on the back of low prices.

The next food revolution in the world will be price and demand led, the Asian market for quality protein is enormous and most of that will still come from meat and not Veg!

You are correct. It will be price and demand led. Demand is being honed by the young, who are influenced by pressure groups that you and I might not agree with, nevertheless they are and ethically they do have a point, of course they do. The pressure on producers will grow considerably through government environmental policies due to replace the current support regime very soon. Us oldies who are less adventurous in our food tastes are naturally dying off to be replaced by the young and adventurous who have no qualms about eating novel [at this point in time] foods.

Then there is the issue of wholesomeness and quality and health and food safety. There is huge investment in the artificial or factory grown protein sector and you can already see it being promoted strongly by various means. That it is grown in nice clean and controlled environments is hard to counter,especially as it avoids animals being slaughtered for food. To try and deny and ignore this issue; burying your head in the sand, will not prevent it happening, especially as I believe that once it is scaled up with competitive manufacturers, the price is estimated by some to reduce to around a third the price at which it is economical to raise cattle even in the USA. Everything, not just high value meat will be impacted. Chicken, which is currently the most efficiently produced meat, will be undercut and its production decimated as well as sheep and cattle. Milk will not be immune either.

The next Foot and Mouth epidemic, and there will be one, is likely to be the killer blow to the whole livestock industry if it comes after substitute production has been ramped up. If that happens there will be no recovery.

 

[Spencer]

I might open a shop called the butchering green grocer!

Or a meat based veggie burger....

 

[Hesstondriver]

People who sell meat are disgusting; but people who sell vegetables are grocer