The war in Ukraine...

[Danllan]

Horrible thread title to start, ridiculous really, totally unnecessary; but Putin has done it... it seems crazy.

I think we - Nato / the West / Democracies - should arm and finance Ukraine. I think we should have a zero tolerance of infringement of NATO airspace and territory.

And I think we should do more, such as operate a no fly zone West of the Dnieper, but that seems very unlikely.

Other threads have shown there are some who think we should do nothing, what do you think we should do...?

 

[czechmate]

Be unified

 

[Womblefarrier]

As NATO members, think it would be a case of damned if we do and damned if we don’t. United though we must stand. Unfortunately, it seems clear that sanctions are ignored, possibly laughed at by the kremlin.
How long will it be till Putin gets a phone call from China congratulating him on his success?

 

[robs1]

Do we have a choice ? We must help Ukraine, if we dont then where will Putin go next or china, history shows us what will happen

 

[Devil's advocate]

How long before Taiwan is invaded.

For goodness state we need to show them, we mean to fight.

 

[Devil's advocate]

The ordinary Russians will be as angry as us & may well revolt if they see we are just as ruthless as Putin.

 

[beardface]

When you dance with the devil, you wait for the music to stop.

 

[beardface]

The ordinary Russians will be as angry as us & may well revolt if they see we are just as ruthless as Putin.

More chance of America and Europe pulling itself apart over this tbh.

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

Other threads have shown there are some who think we should do nothing, what do you think we should do...?

IMHO we should keep supplying Ukraine with whatever weaponry they need. e.g. air defence, ATGM etc

Any direct physical help from NATO itself is not on the cards.

 

[Hfd Cattle]

Ukraine already suffering serious loss.....where are the west ....still discussing what to do!!

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

Ukraine already suffering serious loss.....where are the west ....still discussing what to do!!

We need to be very cautious with any social media posts that aren't verified with a date and a geolocation. This is a very modern war in a digital age and propaganda has never been easier to spread.

"The West" will not be sending troops into Ukraine and neither will NATO.

 

[7610 super q]

Where's those fools that told us an invasion was just Western propaganda ?

 

[hoff135]

Half the welfare budget right now and start re building our armed forces for a start.

Make it obvious that we are prepared to defend nato territory no matter what the cost

 

[its yourself]

Arms. Money. Information. Strategic depth for the Ukrainian people.

 

[BrianV]

Horrible thread title to start, ridiculous really, totally unnecessary; but Putin has done it... it seems crazy.

I think we - Nato / the West / Democracies - should arm and finance Ukraine. I think we should have a zero tolerance of infringement of NATO airspace and territory.

And I think we should do more, such as operate a no fly zone West of the Dnieper, but that seems very unlikely.

Other threads have shown there are some who think we should do nothing, what do you think we should do...?

Stable door comes to mind!

 

[hoff135]

Where's those fools that told us an invasion was just Western propaganda ?

I thought he would only go into donbass, thought it was partly a bluff.

However you won't find anyone in the country that's more determined to defend ourselves than me now. Putin clearly a madman and he needs to know we will stop at nothing to defend the west.

 

[czechmate]

I’ll bet UAFA will move the champions league final, that’ll show um

 

[Oldmacdonald]

Half the welfare budget right now and start re building our armed forces for a start.

Make it obvious that we are prepared to defend nato territory no matter what the cost

Dont think pensioners will be happy.

 

[czechmate]

Can I be the first to suggest the inevitable “Vichy Ukraine” in a matter of days or even hours

 

[Danllan]

Stable door comes to mind!

But you wanted nothing done, you advocated appeasement, Ukraine under Russia is what you want.