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<blockquote data-quote="Danllan" data-source="post: 8101986" data-attributes="member: 8735"><p>Being thick, the long-term blocking of NATO expansion by some - principally France and Germany, but I'm open to correction on that - didn't really occur to me as having any particularly sinister overtones at the time.</p><p></p><p>However, seeing the current reluctance to help Ukraine in a number of ways, it seems now to be at best questionable. Of course, it will be defended by arguing about economic, political and military readiness, and that's fair enough; but... it can't excuse or remove the stain of not doing enough now. </p><p></p><p>As a related aside, if either or both of these countries really do want to see an alternative to NATO - with more than just them in it - they really don't seem to be thinking very far ahead. Nor for the advancement for the sort of federal / closer EU that they seem to envisage - hard to think of a way in which to irritate the Eastern EU states more than act as they are now..</p><p></p><p>I sometimes wonder if they aren't in fact planning a much-reduced EU in the end; maybe back to the 1995 membership; I'm not saying the EU is planning this, just those two, maybe... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite26" alt=":unsure:" title="Unsure :unsure:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":unsure:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Danllan, post: 8101986, member: 8735"] Being thick, the long-term blocking of NATO expansion by some - principally France and Germany, but I'm open to correction on that - didn't really occur to me as having any particularly sinister overtones at the time. However, seeing the current reluctance to help Ukraine in a number of ways, it seems now to be at best questionable. Of course, it will be defended by arguing about economic, political and military readiness, and that's fair enough; but... it can't excuse or remove the stain of not doing enough now. As a related aside, if either or both of these countries really do want to see an alternative to NATO - with more than just them in it - they really don't seem to be thinking very far ahead. Nor for the advancement for the sort of federal / closer EU that they seem to envisage - hard to think of a way in which to irritate the Eastern EU states more than act as they are now.. I sometimes wonder if they aren't in fact planning a much-reduced EU in the end; maybe back to the 1995 membership; I'm not saying the EU is planning this, just those two, maybe... :unsure: [/QUOTE]
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