It’s never an excuse, but it will often be a reason, I’d go as far as saying that it would be the biggest contributing factor in farm accidents. I’m sure most accidents could be traced back to some lack of training or equipment that just wasn’t affordable.
Things that would improve farm safety ?
- Thread starter Clive
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dont use PTO on such implements ? Our trailed sprayer is hydraulic so it’s possible
simmy_bull
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- North Yorkshire
Have you access to the latest statistics of causes of death in the industry?
Is it still falls from roofs and struck by moving vehicles?
a few I know of are dogs in cabs, that’s not about money, it’s just stupid
surely these are the easy accidents to prevent ?
Vincenzosassone
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I'm living this. There is a farmer in my countryside always ready to put his dog in the cab and go. I'm always afraid that his dog one day remains under the wheels of the tractor... This would be banned in my opinion, I know that his dog is "expert" doing it again and again, but I have the impression that he will die sooner or later...
not looked but I’m sure they are probably available online ?
Jam Tomorrow
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- Hardy Country
And for those running a business ...?
dogs are more than able to switch on a pto, move a spool or click a gearbox into drive - Crazy having them in cabs but see it a lot
I dunno. Most construction projects overrun. Tractors, machinery, cars all seem to have long waiting lists. Local broadband fibre is running 12 months late.....
And another thing.....
I've watched working at heights threads on here for 5-6 years. For a year or 2, man cages were de rigueur on here. Now they're not legal unless work is planned...... ( WTF does that mean ? , everything is planned ). A decent cherry picker with test certificates is at least £16k. Then you need a licence to use one ? Nothing suitable to hire locally either. So what does a peasant who earns less than £20k do ? Back to ladders ( which is the unsafest method of all ).
The stock answer from gobshites on here is pack it in and do something else. Wow, that's helpful.
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- East Sussex
The big bags I agree with, I’m in process of making a drill filler with an auger, two springs ago I was about to load a ton bag of spring wheat, brand new bag, and the side webbing on one side hoop went just as I got out of the JCB, I was 30 seconds away from heading up the steps and being underneath it! Trouble is, now they don’t want you to reuse them I think they have reduced the quantity, to save money of course, can’t win. And the top part of the hoop wasn’t damaged before anyone says, and I use a bag lifter, not tines.
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- Aberdeenshire
Stop and take the call so you business has your full attention. Or let them leave a message and catch up on your break.
FonterraFarmer
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- Waikato, New Zealand
A simple solution for dogs in tractor cabs and mobile phone use would be to ban cabed tractors and only use ROPS with seatbelts.
I think they should probably ban bags where you don’t cut the bottom, this ensures no reuse ?
extra cost I know but how many times have we all see a bag loop fail ?
- Location
- East Sussex
Ban commercial farming in this country and export the problem. Nobody cares about the H&S of an African or an Uyghur in China so let's just export the problem. Works in most other industries.
edit: flippant comment so don't reply. I appreciate h&s is a serious issue in ag.
edit: flippant comment so don't reply. I appreciate h&s is a serious issue in ag.
and all die of farmers lung like the “good old days“ I’m not sure removing cabs is a positive safety move !
Goweresque
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- North Wilts
Its not a question of money per se, but money brings corporatism, and corporatism brings H&S. Its noticeable that the vast majority of farm fatalities are owner occupier/workers or family members, not paid third party employees. Most other dangerous industries do not have the owner being the manager and the worker. They have shareholders, paid management and paid employees. Farming can't afford that and is not profitable enough to attract the large corporations to buy up farm land and take over, which they would do if there was more money in it. Farming survives as a peasant activity, and as such has the peasant attitude to H&S - it'll be alright, I've done it like that for years.
The other thing as I keep banging on about is to enforce a strict retirement age for farming of 60. If you are caught working on a farm after that age you would be committing a criminal offence and would be prosecuted. You could own the farm, and/or be a business partner, but not be involved in the day to day management or working thereof. That would cut more than half the farming deaths in an instant. It would also mean that farming lost the awful mantra 'One day son this will all be yours' that elderly tyrants hold over their sons (and daughters). If they HAD to retire at 60 the next generation would get a chance. Or there would be lots more farms available to rent for younger entrants. Either way it would be a Good Thing. And I speak as someone aged 50..........
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- Scottish Highlands
Cut down on bureaucracy and red tape and then maybe we would all have more time to do what we do.
Jam Tomorrow
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- Hardy Country
Yup the motorway hard shoulder is full of parked cars taking calls
I can’t recall EVER having a HSE visit
There's a thread on here about sugar beet not paying. Can't compete with cane grown on t'other side of the world. I can see the UK being the safest place to work on the planet. Yet we will have no industry left to work in. I don't know what the answer is.