This is getting ridiculous

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
It's getting worse, and worse. Between the doggers dog walkers, those that treat the countryside as Alton Towers ( without the entrance fee), the " Nature " boys and girls, and those who like to stick their noses in just because they don't like farmers, life is intolerable.
We seem to have completely lost the connection between land = food production.
Also, an Englishman's castle is his home has gone out the window too.
 
Location
Cleveland
It's getting worse, and worse. Between the doggers dog walkers, those that treat the countryside as Alton Towers ( without the entrance fee), the " Nature " boys and girls, and those who like to stick their noses in just because they don't like farmers, life is intolerable.
We seem to have completely lost the connection between land = food production.
Also, an Englishman's castle is his home has gone out the window too.
Half these bell ends come onto your land and have more rights than you do….if you went into their garden they’d have the police on you before you could blink
 

Andy26

Moderator
Arable Farmer
Location
Northants
Just wait a few months, when they are joining a long queue at Tescos just to get a loaf of bread,they may realise the value of the farming community. As sure as eggs are eggs difficult times are coming over the horizon regarding our nations food supplies & availability.
Are you stupid, if you can't get food from Tesco's just go to Asda.
 

Humble Village Farmer

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
You can't destroy something that wasn't there! Several quotes say no evidence of any nests were seen, so no difference to them going home and mowing their lawn where no nest can be seen, I reckon as quoted they trespass to exercise their dogs their and don't want to lose the area.
Sorry but if there are skylarks present and singing in a field at this time of year, they will definitely be nesting. Not being able to find the nests does not mean they aren't there.
How many people have ever found a larks nest? I think i have found one once; there a a good number of pairs here.
 

serf

Member
Location
warwickshire
It's getting worse, and worse. Between the doggers dog walkers, those that treat the countryside as Alton Towers ( without the entrance fee), the " Nature " boys and girls, and those who like to stick their noses in just because they don't like farmers, life is intolerable.
We seem to have completely lost the connection between land = food production.
Also, an Englishman's castle is his home has gone out the window too.
A good starve may concentrate the minds ...
 
Sorry but if there are skylarks present and singing in a field at this time of year, they will definitely be nesting. Not being able to find the nests does not mean they aren't there.
How many people have ever found a larks nest? I think i have found one once; there a a good number of pairs here.
So even after following the rules and guidelines and no nests found some don't want the production of food to continue, but meanwhile an actual act of trespass seems to be fine with some.
 

Against_the_grain

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
S.E
Sorry but if there are skylarks present and singing in a field at this time of year, they will definitely be nesting. Not being able to find the nests does not mean they aren't there.
How many people have ever found a larks nest? I think i have found one once; there a a good number of pairs here.
So what are we supposed to do. Disrupt our livelihood even more because we may accidently disturb/kill a small bird? People have gone mad. Yes of course we as farmers don't want to kill any wildlife (probably more so than most people) but to not plant a crop or mow a field because there is a possibility of this is just bonkers.
 

Humble Village Farmer

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
So what are we supposed to do. Disrupt our livelihood even more because we may accidently disturb/kill a small bird? People have gone mad. Yes of course we as farmers don't want to kill any wildlife (probably more so than most people) but to not plant a crop or mow a field because there is a possibility of this is just bonkers.
I agree it's bonkers but at the same time so is knowingly destroying skylark nests. But that's the industrial scale farming we now practice.

I don't know what the solution is. Every possible solution will have cost implications that don't affect the consumer; which means there are no solutions.

What I don't think is a very good look is farmers saying it's our right to destroy wildlife in pursuit of economic gain.
 
I agree it's bonkers but at the same time so is knowingly destroying skylark nests. But that's the industrial scale farming we now practice.

I don't know what the solution is. Every possible solution will have cost implications that don't affect the consumer; which means there are no solutions.

What I don't think is a very good look is farmers saying it's our right to destroy wildlife in pursuit of economic gain.
Why do you keep saying 'knowingly " they said they looked and none were found, the protesters couldn't show any to the police, what wild life was destroyed for economic gain, if it wasn't there.
 

beardface

Member
Location
East Yorkshire
Just wait a few months, when they are joining a long queue at Tescos just to get a loaf of bread,they may realise the value of the farming community. As sure as eggs are eggs difficult times are coming over the horizon regarding our nations food supplies & availability.

General public have no idea how things will be by autumn. Serves them and the government right. Let the f**kers starve.
 

Humble Village Farmer

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
Why do you keep saying 'knowingly " they said they looked and none were found, the protesters couldn't show any to the police, what wild life was destroyed for economic gain, if it wasn't there.
Because I know if there are several pairs of skylarks singing over a field, they would 100% be nesting in that field.
 

Against_the_grain

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
S.E
I agree it's bonkers but at the same time so is knowingly destroying skylark nests. But that's the industrial scale farming we now practice.

I don't know what the solution is. Every possible solution will have cost implications that don't affect the consumer; which means there are no solutions.

What I don't think is a very good look is farmers saying it's our right to destroy wildlife in pursuit of economic gain.
Nobody is saying its our right destroying nests! Your as bad as them!
 

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