This paper waste bedding...

[Adam@Rumen]

Paper waste bedding seems to be offered everywhere at the moment, anyone actually tried any?

Straw is obviously going to be crazy money this year so we're looking at options. One thing I'm a bit worried about is spreading it, will it lock the land up like that stuff of old?

Ta

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I know quite a few who have tried it without success .sticks like glue to cows feet and goes like concrete in beds

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Think @pine_guy uses it

 

[jondear]

Tried that recycled wood chip last time straw was expensive .Came from South Molton I think but from what I remember it had glass plastic and nails in it!

 

[pine_guy]

Think @pine_guy uses it

Awful stuff,would steer clear of it......not worried about supply/cost on the back of high straw price, honest.

It's different to straw. Muck out once a week, just enough in so they are ready for mucking out in a week. Big cattle in loose houses work best on it as it works by cattle poaching the surface and mixing the pooh in. Young cattle can seal the surface and get dirty. Also tends to work better with high stocking rates.

I think there is a lot advertised at the moment as a lot of these biomas boilers are drying it to claim RHI grants.

As for spreading, if you are careful, no problem. Main thing is little bits so grass can grow round it, so rear discharge spreader with a slow bed speed. We also bang it on stubble and plough if in. Used to spread well out of the side flinger spreader filled half and half with scraped slop that was to thick to go down the slats.

 

[kfpben]

We used envirobed at the dairy I used to work on. I thought it was good- more consistent than sawdust or chopped straw and kinder on machinery than sand. Meant we didn't have too use lime too.

 

[Adam@Rumen]

Awful stuff,would steer clear of it......not worried about supply/cost on the back of high straw price, honest.

It's different to straw. Muck out once a week, just enough in so they are ready for mucking out in a week. Big cattle in loose houses work best on it as it works by cattle poaching the surface and mixing the pooh in. Young cattle can seal the surface and get dirty. Also tends to work better with high stocking rates.

I think there is a lot advertised at the moment as a lot of these biomas boilers are drying it to claim RHI grants.

As for spreading, if you are careful, no problem. Main thing is little bits so grass can grow round it, so rear discharge spreader with a slow bed speed. We also bang it on stubble and plough if in. Used to spread well out of the side flinger spreader filled half and half with scraped slop that was to thick to go down the slats.

Very useful, thanks Ed.

From what you're saying it's not going to work with our system... back to the drawing board!

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Very useful, thanks Ed.

From what you're saying it's not going to work with our system... back to the drawing board!

Cubicles?

 

[Adam@Rumen]

Cubicles?

The cows are on cubicles and slats but the youngstock are all on straw and won't be stocked heavily enough. We are also only grassland and have to go pretty heavy on with the muck

 

[Northeastfarmer]

The cows are on cubicles and slats but the youngstock are all on straw and won't be stocked heavily enough. We are also only grassland and have to go pretty heavy on with the muck

No muck for straw deals?

 

[Adam@Rumen]

No muck for straw deals?

Something I'm trying to sort but quite a treck from any arable land unfortunately. Was speaking to someone on twitter earlier who mentioned woodchip so trying to have a look at that

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Something I'm trying to sort but quite a treck from any arable land unfortunately. Was speaking to someone on twitter earlier who mentioned woodchip so trying to have a look at that

Can’t you get the youngstock on cubicles too?

 

[Adam@Rumen]

Can’t you get the youngstock on cubicles too?

Might have a look at it, will have to weigh up the cost.

Can't see straw ever becoming "cheap" again so might be worth a bit of investment?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Might have a look at it, will have to weigh up the cost.

Can't see straw ever becoming "cheap" again so might be worth a bit of investment?

I’m ok for straw in my area but if I end where I can’t get any mine will be on cubicles

 

[Derrick Hughes]

we never had any dairy cattle loose housed . don't you have problems getting them used to cubicles later on . Sawdust is cheap or even sand for cubicles

 

[Northeastfarmer]

we never had any dairy cattle loose housed . don't you have problems getting them used to cubicles later on . Sawdust is cheap or even sand for cubicles

Mats are even cheaper

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Mats are even cheaper

still need a dribble of sawdust

 

[Northeastfarmer]

still need a dribble of sawdust

Even with a water bed?

 

[hendrebc]

Even with a water bed?

Little bit of sawdust soaks up any wet on the beds more than used for bedding. Dont need much at all just a sprinkling. Makes it easier to clean amd.keeps it dry

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Even with a water bed?

I don't know