This quote best sums up corrupt Red Tractor

[SilliamWhale]

"Taking part was voluntary, but those animals that didn't had their rations reduced by half" - George Orwell, Animal Farm.

 

[MrNoo]

So true

 

[onthehoof]

We read Animal Farm for English at school, I really must read it again as I would understand it better now, a few bits still come back to me every now and then so I must have been paying attention some of the time.

 

[David.]

It was done on radio a while back.
There is something for everyone in there.
In fact I think it is the politician's handbook.
Imagine peeping in the No10 back window, and seeing our glorious leaders partying, so we didn't have to....

 

[Secret Agronomist]

Good book but disturbing!
1984 is even better, what with the 3 warring factions (NATO, Russia and China?) and spy cams everywhere.

 

[Secret Agronomist]

It was done on radio a while back.
There is something for everyone in there.
In fact I think it is the politician's handbook.
Imagine peeping in the No10 back window, and seeing our glorious leaders partying, so we didn't have to....

There is something a little Porcine about him, and lets not mention Carrie's teeth?

 

[Grass And Grain]

"Taking part was voluntary, but those animals that didn't had their rations reduced by half" - George Orwell, Animal Farm.

I think the worst are the AIC. They have different requirements depending if you are a farmer in the UK vs a farmer anywhere else in the world, and if in the UK you've to jump through more hoops. Generally speaking it's through the hoop of a private assurance company where AIC have members of staff on the board (RT, SQC). But they've never allowed UK growers to supply feed mills by the same method as imports.

If I've remembered it correctly, "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others". Relevant to the ones you want to control.

 

[MrNoo]

I think the worst are the AIC. They have different requirements depending if you are a farmer in the UK vs a farmer anywhere else in the world, and if in the UK you've to jump through more hoops. Generally speaking it's through the hoop of a private assurance company where AIC have members of staff on the board (RT, SQC). But they've never allowed UK growers to supply feed mills by the same method as imports.

If I've remembered it correctly, "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others". Relevant to the ones you want to control.

Indeed, so are we actually going to see an end to this RT madness?? Not seeing much from AHDB so assuming we'll be going it alone?? Any further forward??

 

[Grass And Grain]

Indeed, so are we actually going to see an end to this RT madness?? Not seeing much from AHDB so assuming we'll be going it alone?? Any further forward??

Just had an email from AHDB, asking how we are coming along with our plan, and if there is anything we would like them to help with.

Maybe that is helping get RED II approval, maybe it is liaising with millers or AIC (what standards they will accept), maybe it is putting the whole concept to AHDB to see if they will support/run it, maybe for now it is just to ask is AHDB initially support the concept of an entry level (food safety only) assurance method.

So a plan coming together, but still very much malleable as to where we end up. Essentially, firstly, putting together a basic assurance that AIC will accept. If AIC are interested in feed safety, then they don't need to know if the fuel store is bunded, casual labour agencies are licensed, fertilisers were not applied to frozen ground, we have a H&S policy, or a farm environmental policy, or adhered to pesticide buffer zones etc. They just need to know that pesticides were applied legally, sprayer has current test, grain store and handling is appropriate, etc.

 

[ajd132]

Ha, I read animal farm again last Sunday. Great example.

 

[MrNoo]

Just had an email from AHDB, asking how we are coming along with our plan, and if there is anything we would like them to help with.

Are they to be trusted? I am not sure they are, Grantly Smith certainly isnt, guess we'll see in due course

 

[tullah]

I think the worst are the AIC. They have different requirements depending if you are a farmer in the UK vs a farmer anywhere else in the world, and if in the UK you've to jump through more hoops. Generally speaking it's through the hoop of a private assurance company where AIC have members of staff on the board (RT, SQC). But they've never allowed UK growers to supply feed mills by the same method as imports.

If I've remembered it correctly, "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others". Relevant to the ones you want to control.

I can't imagine those at AIC singing the National Anthem.

 

[teslacoils]

Be in no doubt that the AIC will be in the sights very soon.

It needs putting on the "do not engage" list.

I suggest that farm coops - be them buying groups, grain store or other - seek to create a formal group as the simplest way to pull farmers together to represent our inputs and outputs. No farmer owned group should be a member of the AIC. AIC is systematically against the individual individual farmer from the seed they buy to the outputs they produce.

The links between these industry bodies are so intrenched as to be a cancer on farming.

 

[Hindsight]

We read Animal Farm for English at school, I really must read it again as I would understand it better now, a few bits still come back to me every now and then so I must have been paying attention some of the time.

Me too. So many of these books as teenagers we were forced to read I didn't understand, despite the efforts of teachers to explain. Now with experience of life I would understand. Catch 22 is another life experience book, full of truisms. I baulk when I think back 47 years to that poor English teacher!

 

[ollie989898]

As is usual for me, I'd like to summarise the situation via the medium of meme.

This is my first thought.

 

[Secret Agronomist]

Me too. So many of these books as teenagers we were forced to read I didn't understand, despite the efforts of teachers to explain. Now with experience of life I would understand. Catch 22 is another life experience book, full of truisms. I baulk when I think back 47 years to that poor English teacher!

Just finished Catch 22 again, Milo Minderbinder must work for RT, "Its for the syndicate and you all have a share", except you don't.

 

[David.]

Would that we could all go back those 40 odd years, and give ourselves a shake.

 

[ollie989898]

 

[Grass And Grain]

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30th of February. Wrote it down, so must be correct.

 

[Av Gorritt]

Another one --- 4 legs good , 2 legs better