This time next month, virus.

[Macsky]

I wonder how the vaccine affects natural immunity? If it stops you from getting ill with it does it also stop your immune system from the challenge levels required to create lasting immunity?
Is there any risk of mass vaccination actually prolonging the epidemic?

 

[gone up the hill]

So the coming of night clubs is the equivalent of the Enlightenment
Taking simple precautions, masks, distancing and whatever vaccinations are available is just an easy way to lessen the effects of this virus.
Sadly so many cannot bother to take the smallest of precautions that means the virus can spread so quickly ensuring that the government has to take these sort of steps to protect those idiots who are too f***** lazy or ignorant to get the jab

Shocking that you think it so funny that people who own/work in nightclubs etc may lose their businesses/ jobs/ home etc.

As for the jab, take a look at Devon Live, two news articles on there in the last week alone of two inquests of people who died as a direct result of having the covid jabs! and both were young and healthy before having the jabs, one is a young mother who leaves 3 kids!

And you say people who do not want the jab are lazy or ignorant!!

 

[Exfarmer]

The virus will hit the wall of immunity very quickly so case rates will stop rising at some point soon
imunity from 3 vaccines
or a combination of vaccine and catching it
of for those who are not meeting other people

it cannot double every 3 days for very long

but case rates will still be quite high as there are 10 % of people not vaccinated

Sadly the figure is closer to 20% over 18’s unvaccinated
But the figure is far higher in some cities. Obviously country folk ( apart from 1 or 2 obvious exceptions) are a lot brighter

 

[SilliamWhale]

I wonder how the vaccine affects natural immunity? If it stops you from getting ill with it does it also stop your immune system from the challenge levels required to create lasting immunity?
Is there any risk of mass vaccination actually prolonging the epidemic?

Plenty of experts have said you should never vaccinate in a pandemic.

But there is loads and loads of censorship going on

 

[SilliamWhale]

Sadly the figure is closer to 20% over 18’s unvaccinated
But the figure is far higher in some cities. Obviously country folk ( apart from 1 or 2 obvious exceptions) are a lot brighter

There are about 5% of patients in hospital with covid. 25% of them didn't go in for covid. Of the rest about 50/50 seem to vaccinated give or take.

There's seems an inordinate focus on the unvaccinated in my eyes

 

[JeepJeep]

Sadly the figure is closer to 20% over 18’s unvaccinated
But the figure is far higher in some cities. Obviously country folk ( apart from 1 or 2 obvious exceptions) are a lot brighter

I think or rather I know one TV channel has been doing research into the relationship between anti-vax anti-covid and inbreeding. Who would of thought... Absolute nonsense No way

 

[Fubar]

I wonder how the vaccine affects natural immunity? If it stops you from getting ill with it does it also stop your immune system from the challenge levels required to create lasting immunity?
Is there any risk of mass vaccination actually prolonging the epidemic?

I had covid a month ago. I'm double jabbed with AZ and had mild symptoms. I'm wondering if I really need the booster. I've been told I'm pretty much immune from covid for 90 days by which time omicron will hopefully had run its course.
Surely my natural immunity is as good or better than the booster jab.

 

[Exfarmer]

Shocking that you think it so funny that people who own/work in nightclubs etc may lose their businesses/ jobs/ home etc.

As for the jab, take a look at Devon Live, two news articles on there in the last week alone of two inquests of people who died as a direct result of having the covid jabs! and both were young and healthy before having the jabs, one is a young mother who leaves 3 kids!

And you say people who do not want the jab are lazy or ignorant!!

I know of two people locally recently, who have died of one a stroke the other heart attack in their 40’s to 50’s. Neither had a vaccine recently nor had covid both apparently healthy. It happens both would have been blamed on the jab / covid if they had one or t’other in the previous 28 days

 

[Derrick Hughes]

This omicron is not a deadly one though is it, but with other new covid variant will come no doubt and that could be deadly

Gets weaker as time goes on , this new one is weaker , a lot call it the live vaccine

 

[Macsky]

Plenty of experts have said you should never vaccinate in a pandemic.

But there is loads and loads of censorship going on

I would have to agree, there is absolutely zero discussion or debate on the ins and outs of vaccination, side effects etc. on any mainstream media platform, it doesnt instil confidence.

 

[Fake it ‘til you make it]

Trouble is you cannot now get LFT test kits for love or money!

I actually think its not covid that is the biggest problem getting and keeping staff on the lines but the low rate of pay for what is a very hard and unpleasant job!

I ordered 100 today, they’ll be delivered tomorrow

 

[SilliamWhale]

I would have to agree, there is absolutely zero discussion or debate on the ins and outs of vaccination, side effects etc. on any mainstream media platform, it doesnt instil confidence

I would have to agree, there is absolutely zero discussion or debate on the ins and outs of vaccination, side effects etc. on any mainstream media platform, it doesnt instil confidence.

If in doubt follow the money

 

[Still Farming]

If we make it 10 years forward, looking back what will the findings and views be??
We wonder???

 

[Lofty1984]

If we make it 10 years forward, looking back what will the findings and views be??
We wonder???

That miracles really do happen we’ve gone two years and no ones died from the old fashioned flu it’s all covid

 

[fgc325j]

Face masks do NOT stop you catching or passing on Covid unless you wear the medical grade masks!

And you say not to socialise in big numbers? so what happens to all the industry's like pubs/ resturants/ cinemas/ etc etc if everyone does that and these sectors and their suppliers get no GOV help??

I still , whenever i am in town, or about to enter a place where there will be more than a handful of people, rub some antiseptic gel on my hands
and give my nose/face a wipe before getting out of the car. Stick with the basics - and you cannot go wrong.

 

[MRT]

I still , whenever i am in town, or about to enter a place where there will be more than a handful of people, rub some antiseptic gel on my hands
and give my nose/face a wipe before getting out of the car. Stick with the basics - and you cannot go wrong.

I love your dedication but a waste of time for covid transmission per the BBC.

 

[Jonp]

They don't work. But feelings seem to guide rather than evidence.

Remember the Kent variant everyone?

I give up.

 

[Goweresque]

Some FAST thinking needed as changing variants across the globe ,wave after wave going to break us all if something not devised ?

There has never been a successful vaccine for a coronavirus, for the same reason there has never been a vaccine for the common cold, the viruses mutate too fast for any vaccine program to ever keep up, plus the human immune system cannot be reprogrammed for new variants that easily.

This vaccination program is doomed to fail also, badly, it could end up making things worse. We are going to have to do what the human race has done from time immemorial with regards to new respiratory viruses that emerge - let it rip through the population and those with the healthiest immune systems will survive. There is no alternative, however much the pharmaceutical companies tell you if you just take their 29th booster vaccine it'll all be over. The only way its over is to let nature take its course. Eventually it will mutate into something akin to a cold.

For example its now considered that the global flu epidemic of 1889/90 was in fact caused by a coronavirus called OC43, which is still endemic today. Only now if you get it you get a cold, its mutated over the last 130 years from something that killed an estimated 1 million people (out of a global population of 1.5bn) to a mild illness that bothers no-one, other than those at deaths door already. If that episode is anything to go by it would take maybe 5-6 years for covid to mutate into something less virulent and fatal, as there were recurring waves of deaths from 1889 until 1895, presumably by that point the virus either had become far less fatal, or it had killed all the most vulnerable and everyone else had immunity, or a bit of both. Possibly that process could be faster today as global travel means diseases spread much more quickly.

 

[JeepJeep]

If we make it 10 years forward, looking back what will the findings and views be??
We wonTdfffer???

Shortly into 2022 Tourism was banned from Wales by Drakeford probably until early 23.

Pants will be pee'd and poverty and divorce will be mentioned,

 

[MRT]

Shortly into 2022 Tourism was banned from Wales by Drakeford probably until early 23.

Pants will be pee'd and poverty and divorce will be mentioned,

Add he has written to me suggesting I drink less, so we will also have prohibition