Thoughts.

[Alfred the average]

We have a large area of grassland for forage production. Some of it is grass following wheat of which I need to cut v early to remove the volunteers before taking a clean cut for horse production. Is it better to delay N application and hope the wheat grows faster than the ley or is it better to feed the volunteers with N to push the plant on .
Ideally I want to cut the grass taking the minimum of grass but nailing the wheat .

 

[Alfred the average]

Sorry 2nd question is I have bought 2 products I have not used before treated urea 46 and 26n 35So3 should I apply the urea first and top up with the 26N So3 or vice versa ?

 

[Flat 10]

We have a large area of grassland for forage production. Some of it is grass following wheat of which I need to cut v early to remove the volunteers before taking a clean cut for horse production. Is it better to delay N application and hope the wheat grows faster than the ley or is it better to feed the volunteers with N to push the plant on .
Ideally I want to cut the grass taking the minimum of grass but nailing the wheat .

Chuck plenty N of whatever sort on early and make early first cut clamp silage type stuff and then second cut hay/haylage?

 

[AndrewM]

tricky, cereal plants will regrow when cut, unless they are cut off after they have flowered, that would mean cutting in june, then making your horse hay in august. Or if you just want to knock the wheat back i guess you put on a bit of N , then take a cut at the end of april, and hope the grass grows in the wheat when it shoots up again.

 

[AndrewM]

general wisdom is to use urea in the spring and avoid putting it on in hot dry conditions

 

[Spencer]

Sulphur wants to be on early

 

[Alfred the average]

tricky, cereal plants will regrow when cut, unless they are cut off after they have flowered, that would mean cutting in june, then making your horse hay in august. Or if you just want to knock the wheat back i guess you put on a bit of N , then take a cut at the end of april, and hope the grass grows in the wheat when it shoots up again.

If I time the cut to take out the embryonic ear will all I get is leafy growth . I had hoped as long as I take that out it won’t try to throw seed heads up again .

 

[robs1]

We have a large area of grassland for forage production. Some of it is grass following wheat of which I need to cut v early to remove the volunteers before taking a clean cut for horse production. Is it better to delay N application and hope the wheat grows faster than the ley or is it better to feed the volunteers with N to push the plant on .
Ideally I want to cut the grass taking the minimum of grass but nailing the wheat .

We plant westerwold for haylage then hay, we only put on about 70 units of N as urea for first cut as if it turned wet before cutting it would go down and rot, we do the first cut as haylage we dont notice any volunteers in it after its baled the volunteers will die as they will have heads out before the cut as will the bg, then second cut as hay

 

[AndrewM]

Cut and baled a path through a field of winter oats on the 28th of May last year. Cut the rest of the field of oats for whole crop on the 23rd of June. By September i had to spray off the path as it had greened up and set ear again, where as the rest of the field stayed dead. Cutting it will knock it back massively but won't kill it completely till after it's flowered