Time for subsidies to go.

[sherg]

you are mistaken as I myself know if rents dropped id go out and rent much more to spread my costs that's my plan if subs go, increase cow numbers and acres of grain

If the subs went how easy would it be for you to suddenly increase cow numbers and take on more acres?

and im not even that big, the idea that subs disappearing will be good for the small farmer is crazy, what do you think the big farms getting big subs will do? capitalise on cheaper rents and expand as much as they can, they're not just going to pack up & leave, this in turn means the rent wont drop THAT much

I never said it would be good for the smaller farmer I said it could give the smaller farmer more opportunities

 

[Bossfarmer]

the way people are talking more land will appear and at a cheaper price no doubt ill find a shed somewhere with cattle courts, if I can sell another 500t of grain a year and another 50-100 store cattle using the same labour cost and machinery surely this will boost my turnover enough that I don't need to worry about sfp so much

 

[glasshouse]

Land prices will drop,and your bank may not be too excited at funding your expansion.

 

[turbo]

Land prices will drop,and your bank may not be too excited at funding your expansion.

Why will land prices drop

 

[Bossfarmer]

I meant rents

 

[Bossfarmer]

so all the new entrants thought that's why they voted to leave so there would be more ground available, ill have some of that

 

[turbo]

so all the new entrants thought that's why they voted to leave so there would be more ground available, ill have some of that

Your waisting your time debating with him he just comes across as a very bitter man and carnt get his head round the fact that he is farming someone else's land.As for the renting of land I think there will be quite a bit come on the market because this expanded at all cost isn't going to work long term. I Think it will come down to how much paid labour you have and some are coming to the conclusion that to have less staff and less land will improve their bottom line more than expanding at all cost.

 

[glasshouse]

Why will land prices drop

Land prices will fall because subsidies underpin land prices and have done for 60 yrs. banks will now take a diferent view of lending to farmers

 

[glasshouse]

I meant rents

So you admitt that rents will fall?

 

[Brisel]

So you admitt that rents will fall?

Only if the bids from tenants fall

 

[turbo]

Land prices will fall because subsidies underpin land prices and have done for 60 yrs. banks will now take a diferent view of lending to farmers

No they don't tax planning underpin most of the land values so nothing will change unless the government changes tax policy towards it

 

[Bossfarmer]

So you admitt that rents will fall?

well people on here are telling me they will and if they do ill react accordingly