Tine seeders, info required

[czechmate]

Running a 6m KV and a 6m Weaving here, KV much the better drill, but the Weaving is cheap and cheerful and puts the seed in the ground when conditions are not ideal. Heard good things about Kuhn as well, were hoping to get the Rapid going again this Autumn if the weather plays ball but the tines drills will go much sooner. I would say in your situation where dry on top but a bit tender underneath a tine drill would work well.

My local dealer had a kv Ts in a month or so ago, so I had a good look to see how it compared with the Kuhn. In operation I can’t see any difference at all.
Surprisingly I thought the kv looked a bit more robust

 

[goodevans]

How come Triton haven't come to the party ,or is it too early in the season

 

[carbonfibre farmer]

old fashioned triple K 11am on a nice day and drill with tined juko at 3pm

Or Nordsten

 

[DRC]

Or Nordsten

We used to have a Stegsted, similar to a Nordsten. Pulled some stones up, which is the main drawback on our ground, with any tined implement .

 

[carbonfibre farmer]

We used to have a Stegsted, similar to a Nordsten. Pulled some stones up, which is the main drawback on our ground, with any tined implement .

Luckily not blessed with an abundance of stones. Find the germinator in the spring tends to make stones appear, but not big stones.

We are a bit keen, a 3mtr and 4mtr tine Nordsten's plus one in the hedge for spares

Mind we haven't even started yet! Started raining 3weeks ago, 6" later and rain every day

(Last yr above)

 

[DRC]

Luckily not blessed with an abundance of stones. Find the germinator in the spring tends to make stones appear, but not big stones.

We are a bit keen, a 3mtr and 4mtr tine Nordsten's plus one in the hedge for spares

Mind we haven't even started yet! Started raining 3weeks ago, 6" later and rain every day
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(Last yr above)

I bought a 4m one for £500 to drill grass seed. Didn’t use it much and it was taking up space, so sold it again for the same money.
sorry about the rain.
lifting beet here today, and it’s not pretty on our driest field. Certainly won’t drill afterwards with anything but a plough, combi set up .

 

[goodevans]

Amazing how different parts of the country suffer at different times ,last year was a disaster here in the West, this year the farm has probably never drilled so well,this is today combination following plough

 

[Wombat]

Amazing how different parts of the country suffer at different times ,last year was a disaster here in the West, this year the farm has probably never drilled so well,this is today combination following plough

It was a disaster in the east last year and it’s only vaguely better this year, another wet wheat and it will be heading for a second train wreck here

 

[nick...]

If we have another wet year farmers will suffer financially,chemical firms will still have loads of unsold product including what was left over last year and I understand it’s a lot.machinery dealers will no doubt take a massive hit too along with seed sellers.
nick...

 

[steveR]

That is a sore point.
Looking to save work as I look to semi retirement, I was hoping I could get to some sort of dd, semi dd.
The soil here (very easy to work and hungry) doesn’t crack - at all. It has been drained, circa 1984, about 1.2 m deep with no gravel. I have found that without subsoiling, oh most is a genital slope, I end up with a huge area of catastrophic water logging. So, basically it seems I have to continue with annual subsoiling, I then pull a carrier over it. That is how all my cereal ground is at the moment. This tine drill then works a treat. My only concern about drilling in more moist conditions than I would choose to is about the tractor wheels over my subsoiling, the drill will be fine. It is 4.8 m wide so tyres are only on 30% ground. Also the guy before had this large field all split up into little parcels with electric fences and ploughed little pieces, which meant the field had some horrid lumps and furrows. This tine drill is excellent for levelling it all out again. If I see sense and put it all back to grass my land will be like a bowling green

How do you get one of these....?

 

[Flat 10]

If we have another wet year farmers will suffer financially,chemical firms will still have loads of unsold product including what was left over last year and I understand it’s a lot.machinery dealers will no doubt take a massive hit too along with seed sellers.
nick...

I’m not ahead of last year but I think there’s way more wheat I the ground already from looking on here. Especially in the north/Scotland.

 

[spin cycle]

Amazing how different parts of the country suffer at different times ,last year was a disaster here in the West, this year the farm has probably never drilled so well,this is today combination following plough

thats the secret in a wet season.....slower in dry years but get done in wet ones.....neighbour has minimat out

 

[Hindsight]

How do you get one of these....?

I wondered but thought it to indelicate to ask???!!! Pleased you are less reserved

 

[DieselRob]

Running a 6m KV and a 6m Weaving here, KV much the better drill, but the Weaving is cheap and cheerful and puts the seed in the ground when conditions are not ideal. Heard good things about Kuhn as well, we are hoping to get the Rapid going again this Autumn if the weather plays ball but the tines drills will go much sooner. I would say in your situation where dry on top but a bit tender underneath a tine drill would work well.

What makes the kv better than the weaving in your opinion? Is it build quality or the way it operates?

Hoping to get a sabre tine on demo here in the next couple of weeks and made initial enquiries about a KV the other day as well

 

[Shutesy]

What makes the kv better than the weaving in your opinion? Is it build quality or the way it operates?

Hoping to get a sabre tine on demo here in the next couple of weeks and made initial enquiries about a KV the other day as well

First I'll say that our KV is a 2015 tine drill and the Weaving is a 2007 so not quite comparing apples with apples but in principle, KV built much better, thicker metal, better clearance between legs, Hyd rather than PTO drive fan, simple things like the Weaving cant have its hopper lid opened when folded up where the KV can (quite possibly a difference in age thing, new Weaving might be better). KV points much easier to change, Weaving coulter quite hard to get a socket in to get the deeper nut on and off (again this may have changed). KV a better design to calibrate as well.
That said you mention a Weaving Sabre tine, which is quite different to a standard Weaving Tine drill, much stronger all round to allow for its direct drilling capacity and a different type of tine/coulter and the latest version looks like a very good drill.

 

[Chezza]

What makes the kv better than the weaving in your opinion? Is it build quality or the way it operates?

Hoping to get a sabre tine on demo here in the next couple of weeks and made initial enquiries about a KV the other day as well

Hi Rob, I am just up the road from you!

wouldn't mind seeing a sabre tine in action myself. If your having a demo would it be possible to come down and have a look?

thanks, Richard

 

[DieselRob]

First I'll say that our KV is a 2015 tine drill and the Weaving is a 2007 so not quite comparing apples with apples but in principle, KV built much better, thicker metal, better clearance between legs, Hyd rather than PTO drive fan, simple things like the Weaving cant have its hopper lid opened when folded up where the KV can (quite possibly a difference in age thing, new Weaving might be better). KV points much easier to change, Weaving coulter quite hard to get a socket in to get the deeper nut on and off (again this may have changed). KV a better design to calibrate as well.
That said you mention a Weaving Sabre tine, which is quite different to a standard Weaving Tine drill, much stronger all round to allow for its direct drilling capacity and a different type of tine/coulter and the latest version looks like a very good drill.

Thanks for that, as you say it is a bit apples and oranges but they are interesting points to look out for when the questions are there to be asked

 

[Shutesy]

Thanks for that, as you say it is a bit apples and oranges but they are interesting points to look out for when the questions are there to be asked

No problem, if you get a demo, well worth going through a full calibration procedure to see how easy it is and perhaps changing a point, other than that they have few grease nipples and are all pretty simple drills compared to many others on the market.

 

[MrNoo]

Friend just replaced his Horsch with a new Sabre tine and raves about it, says it is a tad heavy and he had to splash out on a bigger weight block but no complaints, I keep meaning to go and have a look at it but am always busy when he's drilling. I am torn between one and a Simtech or shall just spend some money and go through my old Vaddy and do her up to tide me over until we know where things are going.

 

[ollie989898]

These tine drills make a lot of other drilling equipment look daft. It's a hopper, metering unit, two folding wings and some tines with a following harrow. You couldn't make it more simple if you tried.