Tiny House

Whitepeak

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Livestock Farmer
Me and my partner have been interested in tiny houses for a few months now, and after watching loads of YouTube videos we want to take the next step to possibly living in one. So I was wondering whether any of the TFF faithful have one themselves or have any experience of them, as we would love to find out more and if possible visit one.
 

Whitepeak

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Livestock Farmer
what are they ?
well apart from presumably being small
Basically they are a more substantial static caravan, somewhere between a static and a log cabin type house. They are on a road legal trailer so have different planning laws to cabins and traditional houses. More info here: www.tinyecohomesuk.com
The reason we are looking is that we wish to move out of rented accommodation and move closer to the farm, and house prices in the local area are way over our budget. Also being in a national park planning is very restrictive on new builds, and again the cost is likely to be prohibitive.
 

Still Farming

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
Think chap on grand designs had type of thing that was basically a 1 up 1 down but the ladders,pull outs, roof slide back etc etc looked like a 4 bed spaceship after completion?
 

Forever Fendt

Member
Location
Derbyshire
I would have a go at the planning if i was you as long term you will have a appreciating asset even with a tie on it, I know it will be a load of hassle but i am sure it is possible after all you are half way there as you say houses in your area are out of price range for agricultural workers and running high value pedigree stock calving all year round will help make the figures stack up but i do see the appeal of the tiny home as i have thought about building one of those shepherd huts but no time really to do it
 

renewablejohn

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Location
lancs
I have a 30ft canal boat that will sleep 6 which is quite tiny. Absolutely loved it until Canal and River Trust screwed up being able to live on it. Now looking to move it to Amsterdam as our tiny home base. One thing it does is make you very tidy and less is definetly more. If you collect clutter then dont go down the tiny house route.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Basically they are a more substantial static caravan, somewhere between a static and a log cabin type house. They are on a road legal trailer so have different planning laws to cabins and traditional houses. More info here: www.tinyecohomesuk.com
The reason we are looking is that we wish to move out of rented accommodation and move closer to the farm, and house prices in the local area are way over our budget. Also being in a national park planning is very restrictive on new builds, and again the cost is likely to be prohibitive.
I see,
that would be a grade up for us :)
 

case 5140

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Lleyn peninsula
Basically they are a more substantial static caravan, somewhere between a static and a log cabin type house. They are on a road legal trailer so have different planning laws to cabins and traditional houses. More info here: www.tinyecohomesuk.com
The reason we are looking is that we wish to move out of rented accommodation and move closer to the farm, and house prices in the local area are way over our budget. Also being in a national park planning is very restrictive on new builds, and again the cost is likely to be prohibitive.
You would still need full PP for one... unless in was in a garden next to a family house,talk to Bagshaws ,i lived in a static caravan for 3 years and have how build a house
 

Wink

Member
Location
Hampshire
Thanks for the insight into this. Had never heard of them but these look great. I could only find the prices for the trailer, any idea how much the guide price of the homes are on top?
 

Whitepeak

Member
Livestock Farmer
I would have a go at the planning if i was you as long term you will have a appreciating asset even with a tie on it, I know it will be a load of hassle but i am sure it is possible after all you are half way there as you say houses in your area are out of price range for agricultural workers and running high value pedigree stock calving all year round will help make the figures stack up but i do see the appeal of the tiny home as i have thought about building one of those shepherd huts but no time really to do it

You would still need full PP for one... unless in was in a garden next to a family house,talk to Bagshaws ,i lived in a static caravan for 3 years and have how build a house
We looked into applying for a house about 12mths ago, and the land agent from Bagshaws said then it’s a lot easier to get planning for a house if you are already living on site in “temporary” accommodation. The fact you are managing to farm whilst being offsite to them means they question your actual need. Also I’m not sure our current stock numbers would justify a need, they would do in a few years but not currently. However he also said getting permission for a static type dwelling was easier to get than a full new build- however I know of two farms within half a mile that didn’t get planning on cabins and have used this to their advantage once they did apply for a new build!
My thoughts with a tiny house are: potentially easier to get planning on (if we get planning at all :whistle:), will potentially lead to it being easier to get planning on a new build if we eventually go down this route, the tiny house would have a good resale value if/when we move out, or it could be used for diversification ie holiday let, also we will own an asset instead of loosing money every month in rent (4 or 5 yrs worth of rent will buy a decent spec’d tiny house).
 

case 5140

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Lleyn peninsula
We looked into applying for a house about 12mths ago, and the land agent from Bagshaws said then it’s a lot easier to get planning for a house if you are already living on site in “temporary” accommodation. The fact you are managing to farm whilst being offsite to them means they question your actual need. Also I’m not sure our current stock numbers would justify a need, they would do in a few years but not currently. However he also said getting permission for a static type dwelling was easier to get than a full new build- however I know of two farms within half a mile that didn’t get planning on cabins and have used this to their advantage once they did apply for a new build!
My thoughts with a tiny house are: potentially easier to get planning on (if we get planning at all :whistle:), will potentially lead to it being easier to get planning on a new build if we eventually go down this route, the tiny house would have a good resale value if/when we move out, or it could be used for diversification ie holiday let, also we will own an asset instead of loosing money every month in rent (4 or 5 yrs worth of rent will buy a decent spec’d tiny house).
I got planning with 500 ewes and 25 suckler cows, but im not in the peak district.
If you get planning it will be for you ownly, or a house with an ag tie.
 

S J H

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
We looked into applying for a house about 12mths ago, and the land agent from Bagshaws said then it’s a lot easier to get planning for a house if you are already living on site in “temporary” accommodation. The fact you are managing to farm whilst being offsite to them means they question your actual need. Also I’m not sure our current stock numbers would justify a need, they would do in a few years but not currently. However he also said getting permission for a static type dwelling was easier to get than a full new build- however I know of two farms within half a mile that didn’t get planning on cabins and have used this to their advantage once they did apply for a new build!
My thoughts with a tiny house are: potentially easier to get planning on (if we get planning at all :whistle:), will potentially lead to it being easier to get planning on a new build if we eventually go down this route, the tiny house would have a good resale value if/when we move out, or it could be used for diversification ie holiday let, also we will own an asset instead of loosing money every month in rent (4 or 5 yrs worth of rent will buy a decent spec’d tiny house).

If you look onto the regs on 'mobile homes' I think the max is 60' x 20' but the inside ceiling height has a limit, and the last phase of building is joining the two parts together.

Before I got planning for a new build, I was thinking of this as a fall back, then building this into part of a new build property at a later date if possible. I think one could be built on a steel frame base with timber frame build ontop, then pulled together once complete.

A good argument for planning on a new build is- 30yr payback on a £120k new build cost, versus the 3yr payback on a £40k mobile home, (that was all NatWest would offer me on a mobile at the time)
 
I always wanted to base a home on 3 shipping containers.
Either 30 or 40 footers.

Two next to each other, one on top of one.
One bottom one is garage/junk store
Other bottom one is kitchen and bathroom
Top one is bedroom and living room with doors opening onto the roof of one of the bottom ones to provide outdoor space.
 

Whitepeak

Member
Livestock Farmer
So a couple of months ago we stayed in a tiny house for a weekend. We really liked it, it felt surprisingly spacious and comfortable. I was going to post some photos but I'm struggling to upload them :scratchhead:
We've decided to order their largest road legal home, 23x8 feet and two storey. It'll come in at just under £2k/m2, but the beauty for us is we can do this from just savings meaning no debt or mortgage. We also hope to be able to move in in the new year.
 

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