Tips for a 750A novice

parker

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
south staffs
honestly I don't know ! I think it depends upon a lot of factors, sometimes no need and others it could be the difference between a crop or not, qty of straw, weather after drilling etc lots of variables

My 750 vs Mzuri trail was straw removed (which i don't want to do) had the straw been chopped that may have pushed the 750 crop over the edge in a wet, anaerobic November maybe

the tine has no use other than the trash clearing, its cultivation effect is pointless (negative in fact) but that trash clearing is advantageous in some scenarios. you could argue that adding trash wheels to a 750a or buying a cross slot would solve those occasions but both those options could end up costing you more than a cheap old tine drill would do
it would be interesting to see the results of lowering the seeding boot on the 750a for trash clearance as that only costs time and perhaps a bit more wear on the drill.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
What about driling cover crops into chopped wheat straw with 750a? How are you finding this? Carrier etc would be an option for this but id rather not disturb top of two inches if possible

seems to be fine - early crops are up and away now

not used the carrier so much this year as drill/combine driver has been able to fit it in between harvest and it was very dry here so wanted to conserve moisture in early august. Carrier does work well though, used lightly is doesn't disturb too much and you can sit anyone on it as its a very simple machine
 

York

Member
Location
D-Berlin
Yes, I think so. Our 2008 Claydon has pretty well depreciated now but is till in good condition so I can't really see any point selling it.
you need to sell it. It's costing repair. There are people on the forum which sold their old IH tractor which was fully depreciated, as it's cheaper to rent every year a tractor. Had to buy a posh trailer for their Landy to be able to haul the fire wood for the open fire in the living room in the winter, as no tractor on the farm any more around.
And guess what?
On which tractors are the young one learning to drive? Not on the Fendt 936, or? No, I remember, it was a David Brown 35 hp one in my case.
My oldest was on holiday this year at a working farm. Boy was it a change for here. Was allowed to drive a little blue Landini and a MF combine with 15ten. How many town kid's are able to experience that? Now, as both the oldest spend time on farms, the farm life seems queite atractive to them. Many thanks to the host's of them.... Well done.
Sorry, went a little off topic. Keep the Claydon, you might want to use it more than you plan right now.
York-Th.
 

Lamprz

New Member
Location
Alton
it would be interesting to see the results of lowering the seeding boot on the 750a for trash clearance as that only costs time and perhaps a bit more wear on the drill.

I tried this on a couple of coulters and couldn't see any real difference Parker. I was surprised by the amount of wear on them though when I finally changed them back, that was after planting 120ac with the drill in its shallowest setting. I think the boots are quite expensive, so i didn't consider this much of a solution. Certainly moving the damn things is a right pain, well it is in the field with only a few odd spanners!

Compared to min til were everything is mixed together, I'm hoping the seed is pressed nicely in the bottom of the slot, in contact with the soil, and it will grow through the chaff and straw lying on top. Its the ugliest bit of drilling i have ever done, but it seems to be coming up nicely.
 

Simon Chiles

DD Moderator
Sometimes more downpressure and weight can help. In the USA Matt Hagny recommends havnig the rockshaft tilting backwards with extra pressure and I think this will have an effect on hairpining too.

Tilting the rockshaft back would have the same effect as lowering the boot, both would lower the boot position in relation to the gauge wheel, however tilting the frame backwards to achieve a more tilted rockshaft will result in more wear on the rear coulters than the front ones and differing seeding depths between the front and rear rows so it only really works if you have one row locked up.
Just go clarify matters:- hairpinning is when trash is folded into a slot and the seed is then placed into the folded straw. As the soil dries the trash then tries to straighten flicking the seed out of the ground, ie bad. Not to be confused with a bit of chopped straw in the slot which isn't really a problem.
 

moretimeforgolf

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North Kent, UK
We struggled with hair pinning last year when drilling rape into a thick mat of wheat straw, so made a few changes this time around. Some has been baled as a one off experiment but I'm not keen on selling organic matter! The other thing we've (I mean Dad!) done , is to make a set of row sweepers to clear the way in front of the coulters. We are only using the back row to sow rape. Should be through in a couple of days time so will post some photos.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
We struggled with hair pinning last year when drilling rape into a thick mat of wheat straw, so made a few changes this time around. Some has been baled as a one off experiment but I'm not keen on selling organic matter! The other thing we've (I mean Dad!) done , is to make a set of row sweepers to clear the way in front of the coulters. We are only using the back row to sow rape. Should be through in a couple of days time so will post some photos.

would love to see pictures of your dads fabrication as i'm sure that's the solution for OSR when straw is chopped, the one I tried form Australia was good but a full set even for just 1 row would costs as much as you can buy a cheap tine drill for !
 

moretimeforgolf

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North Kent, UK
would love to see pictures of your dads fabrication as i'm sure that's the solution for OSR when straw is chopped, the one I tried form Australia was good but a full set even for just 1 row would costs as much as you can buy a cheap tine drill for !
All drilled into chopped spring barley stubble at the weekend so should be up in a couple more days.
 

moretimeforgolf

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North Kent, UK
any pics of the cleaners on the drill ?
Couldn't run them all in a row at the back because they dragged up wet straw. Now they are staggered , with half mounted at the front, but lined up with the rear disc. They are adjustable but could do with a bit more fettleing!
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Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Correct, front counters blanked off in distributor head and depth set at shallowest setting. (4m drill). Will post more photos when it emerges ....hope it hasn't drowned with 50mm of rain since drilling!

how did you keep the front coulter bar out the ground ? taps on the rams ?
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
No, that was the plan, but the wings would be quite difficult to do. All we are doing is individual coulters on the front row lifted to minimum depth on the adjuster pegs.

so your front discs are still in the ground a bit just not seeding ? could you not just put line lock taps on all the rams that pivot the front bar to stop them going down ? worry though would be uneven disc wear front to rear - I reckon it would be wise to have a set of rear discs just for OSR seeding
 

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