To mask up or not?

[Cheesehead]

You don't think he will be more popular next week than last?

Unless something drastically changes or Labour shoots themselves in the nuts his approval rating is not what it was I know there are other factors as well but the pandemic is also having a big effect on it

 

[essex man]

Unless something drastically changes or Labour shoots themselves in the nuts his approval rating is not what it was I know there are other factors as well but the pandemic is also having a big effect on it

His popularity shot up because of covid, has fallen away as the fake war has been wound down.
Getting on the uniforms and getting back in the trenches will revive it, the people want response to the variant, he is providing it

 

[Raider112]

They knew about this variant back in July! that is fact!

Strange how it has not been a problem untill this week!

You keep saying that, have you a link? They don't need weeks of research to have suspicions about how well the vaccines will work, they know what they have targeted and the strain is a lot different to the small changes in variants we've seen so far. Hopefully there are enough similarities for it to be effective enough to keep the death toll down but they seem concerned that they will be at least a bit less effective.

 

[essex man]

Unless something drastically changes or Labour shoots themselves in the nuts his approval rating is not what it was I know there are other factors as well but the pandemic is also having a big effect on it

You only have to look at the hysteria and demands for border controls/masks to deal with the variant on this forum to realize how this will play.

 

[Cowabunga]

Oi, can we have less of the scaremongering please. You'll have people panic buying scotch eggs with that language.

It's not scaremongering. It's being realistic, which should be a farmer's default mode.

It's not the scientists creating the variant charlie! That sounds like a conspiracy!

He has blinds on his eyes and earplugs so that he only sees and hears what he dreams up himself and then claims it as fact. The sad thing is, that like the virus, it seems to be highly contagious.

 

[Raider112]

It's not scaremongering. It's being realistic, which should be a farmer's default mode.




He has blinds on his eyes and earplugs so that he only sees and hears what he dreams up himself and then claims it as fact. The sad thing is, that like the virus, it seems to be highly contagious.

I think you might have missed Charlie's sarcasm, he's not one of the flat earthers.

 

[Cowabunga]

I think you might have missed Charlie's sarcasm, he's not one of the flat earthers.

I realise that but others, the ‘flat-earthers’, are “deadly” serious.​

 

[Charlie Gill]

It's not scaremongering. It's being realistic, which should be a farmer's default mode.




He has blinds on his eyes and earplugs so that he only sees and hears what he dreams up himself and then claims it as fact. The sad thing is, that like the virus, it seems to be highly contagious.

Until we see anything different to this news report I'm going to call scaremongering. Anything else is just speculation.

New Covid Variant Omicron: South African medical association says Omicron variant causes 'mild disease' | World News - Times of India

Rest of World News: JOHANNESBURG: The new Omicron variant of the coronavirus results in mild disease, without prominent syndromes, Angelique Coetzee, the chairwoman of th.

m.timesofindia.com

 

[Cowabunga]

Until we see anything different to this news report I'm going to call scaremongering. Anything else is just speculation.

New Covid Variant Omicron: South African medical association says Omicron variant causes 'mild disease' | World News - Times of India

Rest of World News: JOHANNESBURG: The new Omicron variant of the coronavirus results in mild disease, without prominent syndromes, Angelique Coetzee, the chairwoman of th.

m.timesofindia.com

The Delta only causes mild symptoms in the majority. For a significant minority is causes severe illness and for even more people it causes long term damage of varying severity, the so-called ‘Long Covid’. There is reason to suspect that this is no different except that there will be zero mitigation to severe disease from the vaccines for this one. THIS is why world health experts and leaders are taking this very seriously indeed until proven otherwise. As should YOU!

 

[Charlie Gill]

The Delta only causes mild symptoms in the majority. For a significant minority is causes severe illness and for even more people it causes long term damage of varying severity, the so-called ‘Long Covid’. There is reason to suspect that this is no different except that there will be zero mitigation to severe disease from the vaccines for this one. THIS is why world health experts and leaders are taking this very seriously indeed until proven otherwise. As should YOU!

Thanks for the advice


Are you able to back up any of the bits I've bolded? Not trying to trip you up, but if you can't, to me it's scaremongering.

Due to the efficacy of the vaccines, not so much in stopping infection but in limiting its severity. Today we have another virus type that very probably bypasses the vaccine completely and if that is so, and it does look very likely, then hospitalisations and deaths will soar as a percentage of infections and infections will again increase exponentially, especially driven by non-mask wearers with cavalier and selfish attitudes and practices.

 

[tepapa]

The Delta only causes mild symptoms in the majority. For a significant minority is causes severe illness and for even more people it causes long term damage of varying severity, the so-called ‘Long Covid’. There is reason to suspect that this is no different except that there will be zero mitigation to severe disease from the vaccines for this one. THIS is why world health experts and leaders are taking this very seriously indeed until proven otherwise. As should YOU!

What are you thinking? Are we back to square one?. A month to get a vaccine developed to the new variant. Then 6 months to get the population vaccinated and then another 6months for the second booster. Lockdown till 2023?

 

[Cowabunga]

Thanks for the advice


Are you able to back up any of the bits I've bolded? Not trying to trip you up, but if you can't, to me it's scaremongering.

I refer you to Govt advice and indeed governments and health services of multiple nations, which you obviously choose to totally ignore. Head. Sand. Ostrich!

 

[Cowabunga]

What are you thinking? Are we back to square one?. A month to get a vaccine developed to the new variant. Then 6 months to get the population vaccinated and then another 6months for the second booster. Lockdown till 2023?

It will take nearer three months to get a vaccine adapted to this new variant. Pfizer say “100 days”.
The world will remain in a critical alert situation with emergency action where appropriate for as long as it takes. It’s that simple.

 

[Charlie Gill]

I'm thinking Ivermectin might have some serious side effects.

 

[Martin Holden]

I’m astonished that still some folk appear to believe this is a hoax and that governments want to and perhaps enjoy controlling the population. Isn’t there enough evidence that this super flu strain is a killer and therefore has to be taken seriously. Lockdowns are awful yes, but better that than more premature deaths and hospitals full to capacity and beyond.

 

[tepapa]

I’m astonished that still some folk appear to believe this is a hoax and that governments want to and perhaps enjoy controlling the population. Isn’t there enough evidence that this super flu strain is a killer and therefore has to be taken seriously. Lockdowns are awful yes, but better that than more premature deaths and hospitals full to capacity and beyond.

I'm astonished that some folk appear to believe this virus is going to go away and were all going to go back to normal. We live in a global world. If we got rid of of the virus in the UK it would be back on the first flight in.

 

[essex man]

Omicron is an Anagram of Moronic – Which Helps Explain the Government's Idiotic New Measures to Curb the Spread of the New Virus – The Daily Sceptic

Whitty: To prevent spread of Omicron, as many people as possible should get a booster of a vaccine that is already largely ineffective against spread of Delta and probably even less effective against spread of new variant.

dailysceptic.org

 

[BrianV]

I'm astonished that some folk appear to believe this virus is going to go away and were all going to go back to normal. We live on a global world. If we got rid of of the virus in the UK it would be back on the first flight in.

As said before you only have to look at the Chinese response to this who know far more about the make up & origin of this disease than they should do to know this is not going away any time soon!

 

[gone up the hill]

I’m astonished that still some folk appear to believe this is a hoax and that governments want to and perhaps enjoy controlling the population. Isn’t there enough evidence that this super flu strain is a killer and therefore has to be taken seriously. Lockdowns are awful yes, but better that than more premature deaths and hospitals full to capacity and beyond.

Utter rubbish, lockdowns are doing massive damage to people's life's on so many fronts and the cure is now much worse than the illness when it comes to covid.

On average 1600 people a day die in the UK, for weeks/ months out of that figure covid deaths ( thou of course most of these people did not die of covid but just tested positive in the previous 28 days ) has been what 50/60 people a day at most??

No evidence at all this new strain is a killer and in fact country's that have got cases of this new strain are all saying that its a very mild strain but transmission between people is higher than other strains to date.

As for the NHS being overrun, that is the biggest laugh going, hardly any of them have been anywhere near like being overrun with patients the last 2 years, and what happened to those nightingale hospitals?? all set up at great cost then closed and mostly dismantled as there was no demand for them!

And yes you will say that they did not have the staff to run them, well that may have been the case 20 months ago but the NHS etc have had plenty of time in nearly 2 years to prepare for higher C-19 cases and what have they done? sweet FA!

If they do have another lockdown then it will destroy the hospitality sector and most of the retail sector, these business cannot keep shutting down for months at a time like this.

Covid will be around for decades at least, we just have to live with it and get back to normal life like we have done so with flu !

 

[essex man]

Johnson said “we simply don’t yet know enough” about Omicron – yet his press conference did nothing but instil fear — Bournbrook Magazine

I certainly fear that new restrictions are just around the corner.

www.bournbrookmag.com

"You are scared of this variant, allow me to stoke that fear and give you some meaningless, ineffective ways of fighting it, then you will think I am your great war leader again"