To start OSR drilling next week?

[farmer steve]

20mm yesterday on top of 25mm Thursday and a 10 sat night means its pretty damp here. I think there was some Friday too. Tried to pull some OSR land up this PM and gave up as too wet. More forecast Thursday. Very surreal as was so dry despite us having 40mm in storms a fortnight previous. Can't believe how much it has changed and that you haven't had any.

6.5mm here yesterday. Had a few days this month where we have had 5mm in showers but not totalling no more than 25mm for the month. It's just made no difference at all. Rain has been so localised around here. 20 miles away they've had lots more rain.

 

[spikeislander]

Thoughts on delaying drilling to miss high csfb pressure ?
I’m planning this a little as we also have enough moisture to grow but not last long and no significant rain fall forecast ?
I’m drilling now for others but seriously considering waiting 2 weeks on mine?
If we do get rain then will subsoil in better too, I think time might be better spent getting cereal ground up and stale seedbeds ready for rain ?
Very undecided it’s a classic 50/50 crystal ball gazing exercise

 

[willy]

Thoughts on delaying drilling to miss high csfb pressure ?
I’m planning this a little as we also have enough moisture to grow but not last long and no significant rain fall forecast ?
I’m drilling now for others but seriously considering waiting 2 weeks on mine?
If we do get rain then will subsoil in better too, I think time might be better spent getting cereal ground up and stale seedbeds ready for rain ?
Very undecided it’s a classic 50/50 crystal ball gazing exercise

Agree with your sentiment

 

[Flat 10]

Thoughts on delaying drilling to miss high csfb pressure ?
I’m planning this a little as we also have enough moisture to grow but not last long and no significant rain fall forecast ?
I’m drilling now for others but seriously considering waiting 2 weeks on mine?
If we do get rain then will subsoil in better too, I think time might be better spent getting cereal ground up and stale seedbeds ready for rain ?
Very undecided it’s a classic 50/50 crystal ball gazing exercise

Rain tomorrow?

 

[spikeislander]

Yes not sure how much then dry as far as forecast shows (10)days

 

[nick...]

Got mine in today into a lovely moist seedbed.hopefully will get away well.no sign of flea beetles in rape stubbles adjacent either
Nick...

 

[MrNoo]

Early drilled stuff last week is poking through today, no sign of FB yet and slug activity not seen, should get the rest of mine all drilled up by the weekend.

 

[General-Lee]

Kicked off here this afternoon/evening.

 

[Flat 10]

Thoughts on delaying drilling to miss high csfb pressure ?
I’m planning this a little as we also have enough moisture to grow but not last long and no significant rain fall forecast ?
I’m drilling now for others but seriously considering waiting 2 weeks on mine?
If we do get rain then will subsoil in better too, I think time might be better spent getting cereal ground up and stale seedbeds ready for rain ?
Very undecided it’s a classic 50/50 crystal ball gazing exercise

I hope you are wrong, had a go today.....

 

[DrWazzock]

Was going to DD into sprayed off grass ley but it's swarming with flea beetles which are seriously grazing the clover that survived the roundup. It's also rough as hell due to moles so I am ploughing it and hoping for rain. Plough is at least relieving some serious surface compaction and isn't smearing the furrow bottom. Not worried about waiting a fortnight. Light land. Will power harrow it down to reconsolidate and level, wait for rain then drill, even into first week of September if I have to.

Stubble turnips direct drilled into cereal stubbles a fortnight ago are now nicely up and had 50 kg N. Sown at 2 kg per ha and plenty thick enough. Not much sign of flea beetle damage yet, so holding off the spray. No slug damage.

 

[snarling bee]

Had 3 lots of 9mm here, but still dry below the top inch. With a dry week ahead I am still to confirm seed order. Window ends 7 September for me so we shall see what rain falls after this week.

 

[MrNoo]

Drilled 8th Aug with a Weaving Subdisc with seeder on the back. Not a lot of activity re FB or slugs, will get the rest drilled and then bang some fert on.

 

[robbie]

Has anyone got any experience of using ralos herbicide from dow?

In my non grass weed situation, Its been suggested I use it early post em but it's a exclusive product and is similar money to the katamaran turbo etc.
Does it do a good job, I can't see much on the label which makes it great and being exclusive to one distributer makes me cautious.

 

[Brisel]

Ralos has some expensive ingredients. What weeds are you targeting?

 

[robbie]

Thats the trouble @Brisel. It's over £60/ha! It's had clomazone pre em and looking in the ahdb rape growers guide and niab strategy book the pre em plus astro kerb would cover all bases and be cheaper.

I've never grown rape on this land before so I'm not to sure what weeds to expect. I normally just use pdm +Dff if autumn sown cereal or ally type +mcpa for spring sown and that does a job without worrying to much.

Chickweed, fathen, small nettles, groundsel.

 

[Brisel]

Even straight Kerb will do chick weed. I do clomazone pre em, a cheap graminicide to clean up volunteers then Astrokerb later when I know I’ve got a crop which does poppy, chickweed, thistles and lots more. That’s the same kind of money as a beefy Kat Turbo pre em followed later by straight generic Kerb. I don’t see what justifies Ralos given your weed spectrum you described. Ask your agronomist - they may have a good reason for choosing it other than a Christmas bonus from their boss for flogging it! I have to be careful taking the easy option of slagging off serviced agronomy from the comfort of my desktop in Dorset in case there are some details missing from the story.

 

[robbie]

My plan was to keep weed control cheap because of the absence of grass weeds. I spoke to my man about it, and he suggested ralos. When I dug a little deeper I realised it's a exclusive and actually I couldn't find anything on the label which makes it very special.

Pre em clomazone £15/ha

Full rate Ralos £60 ish/ha

Full rate astro £35ish/ha

I used astro last year and it done a good job.

 

[Zippy768]

Why not of used clomazone and metzacalor pre em? What is the astro supposed to be covering that those wouldn't, in the absence of grass weed probs?

 

[robbie]

I don't know tbh! I'm no rape expert, I'm just going on what I've been told which seems to be yet another reason for me getting my BASIS.

I suppose being cynical that perhaps clomate and sultan don't buy much of a Xmas bonus like ralos would.[emoji848]

 

[Zippy768]

I don't know tbh! I'm no rape expert, I'm just going on what I've been told which seems to be yet another reason for me getting my BASIS.

I suppose being cynical that perhaps clomate and sultan don't buy much of a Xmas bonus like ralos would.[emoji848]

You are not on serviced agronomy are you, not with those prices??
Always toyed with the idea of clomazone pre em and tidy it all up with astrokerb/kerb. But I would just be chasing my tail and by Dec it would look like a weedy mess.

Disclaimer. I'm not expert either, but @Brisel seemed to raise his eyebrows at Ralos