Today's biggest tractor price difference

[Tarw Coch]

Drive it I know of one company in Welshpool ( mid wales ) who drove a self propelled forestry chipper ( a big thing, like 500hp type big ) Back from Germany doing the ferry thing to get back to the UK.

Careful what you say, one of the owners is related to a regular poster on TFF.


Actually, IIRC, farmers from all over Europe, countries like Italy or Spain, go to the valtra factory to collect their new tractors and drive them home.

 

[Chae1]

Careful what you say, one of the owners is related to a regular poster on TFF.


Actually, IIRC, farmers from all over Europe, countries like Italy or Spain, go to the valtra factory to collect their new tractors and drive them home.

Why don't they get them delivered on a lorry?

 

[Tarw Coch]

Why don't they get them delivered on a lorry?

Presumably pride in their new purchase, I think valtra do custom builds in the factory and people go to see their tractors being built.
Im sure the vast majority are delivered by lorry but some folk like to be different, the type of folk who buy valtras.

 

[hintonroadhero]

Official figures released here last week by the FTMTA .

I understand that Euro competition regs dictate that those figures are one years in arrears....so actually belong to 2016?

 

[sputnik]

I understand that Euro competition regs dictate that those figures are one years in arrears....so actually belong to 2016?

Here in Denmark the numbers for the 2017 is already released !

 

[james ds]

I understand that Euro competition regs dictate that those figures are one years in arrears....so actually belong to 2016?

Yes and the unofficial figures for last year put MF at the top for the first time in years.

 

[Guy]

Today's comparison

New JD 7310r
Like for like spec is looking at being over £15k cheaper abroad .. possibly more ..just awaiting final discounts ...

 

[manttys]

That's another interesting fact.. overseas advertised prices include MASSIVE negotiated margin .. I mean massive

Does it include used machinery cases as well? My friend is after used fendt 724 (up to 4k hours), but prices in Germany doesn't inspire at all.

 

[Ali_Maxxum]

I was going to get a price for a new tractor today, but I've seen the price for a well spec'd ex demo of what I'm after and after seeing that I'm probably not even going to bother ringing up now.

It's absolutely frightening the way the prices of these new tractors are going.

The tractor in question is £12,000 more than what our newest one was brand new 2 years ago. So a brand new one would be what, near 20k more?! Yes, it's the newer range and model up, new style roof/lights/bonnet and other than the obvious new engine, slightly bigger fuel tank and a couple of other little things it's damn near the same!

Is it really 12-20k worth?! The amount of extra work I would have to do just to pay for it would mean I would probably never not be working. It almost feels like that at the moment....

 

[Daniel]

I was going to get a price for a new tractor today, but I've seen the price for a well spec'd ex demo of what I'm after and after seeing that I'm probably not even going to bother ringing up now.

It's absolutely frightening the way the prices of these new tractors are going.

The tractor in question is £12,000 more than what our newest one was brand new 2 years ago. So a brand new one would be what, near 20k more?! Yes, it's the newer range and model up, new style roof/lights/bonnet and other than the obvious new engine, slightly bigger fuel tank and a couple of other little things it's damn near the same!

Is it really 12-20k worth?! The amount of extra work I would have to do just to pay for it would mean I would probably never not be working. It almost feels like that at the moment....

The trade in value Case offered us on our current one at 3.5 years old put it at £15/hr depreciation.

And that was with swapping the GPS screen and receiver over. If we'd put a new screen and receiver on the proposed new one it would have been even worse.

 

[Iben]

I was going to get a price for a new tractor today, but I've seen the price for a well spec'd ex demo of what I'm after and after seeing that I'm probably not even going to bother ringing up now.

It's absolutely frightening the way the prices of these new tractors are going.

The tractor in question is £12,000 more than what our newest one was brand new 2 years ago. So a brand new one would be what, near 20k more?! Yes, it's the newer range and model up, new style roof/lights/bonnet and other than the obvious new engine, slightly bigger fuel tank and a couple of other little things it's damn near the same!

Is it really 12-20k worth?! The amount of extra work I would have to do just to pay for it would mean I would probably never not be working. It almost feels like that at the moment....

Like others on here, I need you to keep buying new machines so we can get the s/h bargains.

So stop complaining and put your hand in your pocket.

 

[Hilly]

Tractors over 80k are bad business 80k could be spent on something much more lucrative than a tractor,

 

[Iben]

Tractors over 80k are bad business 80k could be spent on something much more lucrative than a tractor,

I take it you just plucked that figure out of the air. Or is it just relevant to you?

 

[Hilly]

I take it you just plucked that figure out of the air. Or is it just relevant to you?

Bit of both, i only work on fag packet calculations, but guess what they work.

 

[will86]

The trade in value Case offered us on our current one at 3.5 years old put it at £15/hr depreciation.

And that was with swapping the GPS screen and receiver over. If we'd put a new screen and receiver on the proposed new one it would have been even worse.

I’d think a lot of tractors would be close to that depreciation figure when you look at how much the new price has increased in those 3.5 years!

 

[Hilly]

Price goes up because you keep buying them, its that simple.

 

[Tarw Coch]

Tractors over 80k are bad business 80k could be spent on something much more lucrative than a tractor,

Surely it's all relative to the size of your farm and what you need to do with the tractor, it's getting to the stage where 80k doesn't buy that big of a tractor but can you do what you need to do with something smaller/cheaper?

But I do sometimes wonder if I'd be better off renting the farm out, cashing in the machinery and buying houses to rent out, at least they go up in value.

 

[Hilly]

Surely it's all relative to the size of your farm and what you need to do with the tractor, it's getting to the stage where 80k doesn't buy that big of a tractor but can you do what you need to do with something smaller/cheaper?

But I do sometimes wonder if I'd be better off renting the farm out, cashing in the machinery and buying houses to rent out, at least they go up in value.

A little commonsense and a little time shopping about etc would get you a hell of a tractor for well under 80k, to produce grain at what price again ?

 

[Tarw Coch]

A little commonsense and a little time shopping about etc would get you a hell of a tractor for well under 80k, to produce grain at what price again ?

Can't really justify new at current prices myself but buying tidy second hands ain't all fun as I've found out recently myself.

 

[Daniel]

I’d think a lot of tractors would be close to that depreciation figure when you look at how much the new price has increased in those 3.5 years!

That's purchase price less trade in, nothing to do with the new price.

The proposed new tractor offered is approx £10k more than the last one and is ex demo whereas the last one was new.