Tom Heap

DeeGee

Member
Location
North East Wales
I see Adams in one of the mags today moaning about the grief he gets off other farmers for portraying the industry as happy clappy brand new shiny and clean!! If he doesn’t like it maybe he should give all the money he’s earnt back and portray the job as it is, hard on the mind hard on the body and hard on the bank balance! He’s been corrupted by a totally anti farming corporation with a one sided biased way of reporting anything that they deem to be a bit sensitive to there middle class snowflake audience!! I wouldn’t pay Tom heap in washers, when they do have something on that might be deemed a bit sensitive to jo-public why can’t they approach it in a positive manner and explain it a bit more instead of saying the classic go to line “the industry is working to improve this”” 🤬 I cant watch it or I’d take a bat to the telly!!
You can’t do that, bats are a protected species.
 

pycoed

Member
Really? I have several left wing facebook associates of mine (that I like to pick arguments with) are convinced the BBC is an raving Thatcherite right wing organization :scratchhead: If the right wing think the beeb is left wing and the left wing thinks they are right wing, maybe, just maybe the beeb treads closer to the line of impartiality then those on either wing believe. :ROFLMAO: My own perception is the more serious grown up shows lean a little to the right whilst the lighter "entertainment" productions, including Springwatch and Countryfile, lean ever more to the left.
:unsure:Can you give me an example of anything on the BBC that could be construed as right wing? Because I've seen nothing since Tony Blair was elected.
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Did everybody see Tom Heap was the presenter and avoid the programme?

I'm really surprised that Tom Heap and Adam Henson are being derided on here, *by farmers*.
You might not like what they say, or perhaps how they say it, but sometimes there are subjects that need to be discussed in the public eye that need 'balance' and for both sides to be heard.

I spend more time than I care debating 3rd rate 'journalism' over on the Guardian web site. Monbiot, Packham and the like, where overt "class warfare" is thinly dressed up as half baked 'environmentalism', these are the people who deserve our unswerving critical attention as their 'opinions' carry a lot of weight with a very vocal and militant minority.

Tom Heap and Adam Henson are 'public friendly' faces, their opinions are trusted by viewers, and although I don't always agree with them they are two of the best presenters in the UK media for discussing UK Ag in laymans terms, for the benefit of the 95% of viewers who aren't farmers.

As for John Craven, I've no idea how he's kept his job. Several times I've watched him play to the 'urban' audience with a snooty story designed to make farmers look like idiots.
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
:unsure:Can you give me an example of anything on the BBC that could be construed as right wing? Because I've seen nothing since Tony Blair was elected.
The first and simplest thing, is animal rights, sadly many of the far right, such as Adolf Hitler and numerous others of the extreme right believe that we need to go back to a Petruvian golden age when men and animals lived in harmony.
 

JSmith

Member
Livestock Farmer
I'm really surprised that Tom Heap and Adam Henson are being derided on here, *by farmers*.
You might not like what they say, or perhaps how they say it, but sometimes there are subjects that need to be discussed in the public eye that need 'balance' and for both sides to be heard.

I spend more time than I care debating 3rd rate 'journalism' over on the Guardian web site. Monbiot, Packham and the like, where overt "class warfare" is thinly dressed up as half baked 'environmentalism', these are the people who deserve our unswerving critical attention as their 'opinions' carry a lot of weight with a very vocal and militant minority.

Tom Heap and Adam Henson are 'public friendly' faces, their opinions are trusted by viewers, and although I don't always agree with them they are two of the best presenters in the UK media for discussing UK Ag in laymans terms, for the benefit of the 95% of viewers who aren't farmers.

As for John Craven, I've no idea how he's kept his job. Several times I've watched him play to the 'urban' audience with a snooty story designed to make farmers look like idiots.
I agree that Adam Henson has a public friendly face and has the ear of jo-public, this is precisely the point that gets people’s back up!! Instead of jazzing it up and making everything squeaky clean perfect he should tell it how it is and as it happens!! I think people would like warts and all as seen on the very popular This Farming Life series, the only reason society has gone soft and shy about the realities of the day to day running of the country side is because of programmes like that !! And as for Chris packham and the like they’ll all be at the same Xmas party slapping each other on the arse
 

kfpben

Member
Location
Mid Hampshire
The first and simplest thing, is animal rights, sadly many of the far right, such as Adolf Hitler and numerous others of the extreme right believe that we need to go back to a Petruvian golden age when men and animals lived in harmony.
I always find the anti live exports crowd are a prime example of this. A weird combination of animal rights ideology and UKIP style politics.
 

Cheesehead

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Kent
I always find the anti live exports crowd are a prime example of this. A weird combination of animal rights ideology and UKIP style politics.
I found the opposite on most local Facebook groups with every single one believing the sun shines out of JC's arse one even stood as a local labour councillor in a village that doesn't want to be turned into a suburb of a garden town and she still lost with only 3% of the votes. Another who was mouthing off about live exports and lorry parks is very much Labour and pro EU
 

Willie adie

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
I'm really surprised that Tom Heap and Adam Henson are being derided on here, *by farmers*.
You might not like what they say, or perhaps how they say it, but sometimes there are subjects that need to be discussed in the public eye that need 'balance' and for both sides to be heard.

I spend more time than I care debating 3rd rate 'journalism' over on the Guardian web site. Monbiot, Packham and the like, where overt "class warfare" is thinly dressed up as half baked 'environmentalism', these are the people who deserve our unswerving critical attention as their 'opinions' carry a lot of weight with a very vocal and militant minority.

Tom Heap and Adam Henson are 'public friendly' faces, their opinions are trusted by viewers, and although I don't always agree with them they are two of the best presenters in the UK media for discussing UK Ag in laymans terms, for the benefit of the 95% of viewers who aren't farmers.

As for John Craven, I've no idea how he's kept his job. Several times I've watched him play to the 'urban' audience with a snooty story designed to make farmers look like idiots.
Remember Craven has been with the BBC since the 70s he maybe knows some unsavoury things about certain people, from that era!
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Why in this day and age anybody is still paying their TV tax is beyond me, hit them in the pocket, they'll soon change when enough people cancel their licence!
F**k the BBC!
Because many of us enjoy watching TV with no F****** adverts. There is only so much Netflix or amazon prime films I want to see and many of those are low budget
Also it has far higher quality childrens programmes than any other source I have seen!
I would be very happy to be proven wrong on the last point
 

Guiggs

Member
Location
Leicestershire
Because many of us enjoy watching TV with no F****** adverts. There is only so much Netflix or amazon prime films I want to see and many of those are low budget
Also it has far higher quality childrens programmes than any other source I have seen!
I would be very happy to be proven wrong on the last point

I won't pay to have everything I beleive in rubbished, my way of life vilified and opinions branded as extreme/ racist /murderous etc etc.
Plenty of decent kids tv on other networks and adverts are part and parcel of everyday life im afraid.
 

GeorgeC1

Member
I won't pay to have everything I beleive in rubbished, my way of life vilified and opinions branded as extreme/ racist /murderous etc etc.
Plenty of decent kids tv on other networks and adverts are part and parcel of everyday life im afraid.

What opinions of yours are considered racist?
 

Raider112

Member
What opinions of yours are considered racist?
Getting on dodgy ground there but all this BLM stuff demonstrates that many haven't the first idea of how racism was 40 years ago and they just want to call racism for the slightest thing, which is the reason why there is far more division than 6 months ago. If I say something to a white person that they disagree with it is irrelevant but if I say the same thing to a black person they shout racist as they have taken the BLM message as an excuse to feel offended where no offence was there. We have taken race relations back decades, all because a criminal died while being arrested. Did you see the report of the child on a bike that was shot dead by his black neighbour? that is far worse but it's being swept under the carpet, imagine the outrage if it was a black kid and a white man.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
I see Adams in one of the mags today moaning about the grief he gets off other farmers for portraying the industry as happy clappy brand new shiny and clean!! If he doesn’t like it maybe he should give all the money he’s earnt back and portray the job as it is, hard on the mind hard on the body and hard on the bank balance! He’s been corrupted by a totally anti farming corporation with a one sided biased way of reporting anything that they deem to be a bit sensitive to there middle class snowflake audience!! I wouldn’t pay Tom heap in washers, when they do have something on that might be deemed a bit sensitive to jo-public why can’t they approach it in a positive manner and explain it a bit more instead of saying the classic go to line “the industry is working to improve this”” 🤬 I cant watch it or I’d take a bat to the telly!!
Or from different view point some would just say thatAdam is a tenant farmer doing his best with diversification to provide for his family and their future.
 

Guiggs

Member
Location
Leicestershire
What opinions of yours are considered racist?

I dont support the violence and vandalism of BLM and I dont see why drug addict criminals should be martyred.
I also dont consider dinghies full of "fighting age" men being taxied by out border force to our shores and given preference and better treatment than our elderly and our veterans amongst others, to be acceptable.
Muslim grooming gangs being treated with kid gloves so as not to offend.... they wouldn't be raping and abusing vulnerable kids ever again if they received the kind of justice I think they deserve.
Need i go on!
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Because many of us enjoy watching TV with no F****** adverts. There is only so much Netflix or amazon prime films I want to see and many of those are low budget
Also it has far higher quality childrens programmes than any other source I have seen!
I would be very happy to be proven wrong on the last point

Spot on summation.

I do have access through the "kids" various Pay TV channels, and rarely bother to watch anything on them....

I enjoy watching Rugby is about all I would pay for, and as BT Sport don't have a subscription available (I've asked twice) , so I watch a pirate stream!! :)
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
I won't pay to have everything I beleive in rubbished, my way of life vilified and opinions branded as extreme/ racist /murderous etc etc.
Plenty of decent kids tv on other networks and adverts are part and parcel of everyday life im afraid.
If you think it is worth spending up to 30% of your life watching adverts fine. I would sooner eat my pants !
if youcan point me towards a channel for 6 year olds I would be very pleased Which is not dire American trash or adverts for the latest toys , I would be very pleased.
 

Guiggs

Member
Location
Leicestershire
If you think it is worth spending up to 30% of your life watching adverts fine. I would sooner eat my pants !
if youcan point me towards a channel for 6 year olds I would be very pleased Which is not dire American trash or adverts for the latest toys , I would be very pleased.

I don't watch a great deal of TV to be honest so ads aren't the end of the world...
As for recommendations for TV channels for kids that isn't full of ads for toys or American trash..... I'm good but I'm not that bloody good!
 

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