Too soon to AI.
- Thread starter sidjon
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Had cows hold at 15 days before but that was with a bull.
Clay52
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If you are year round calving certainly don't do it. Block calving you could give them a go and see what happens especially if you are near the end of breeding. Chances are they will be back on in 21 days and just AI them again.
Cowabunga
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Yes I would. The old tradition of not putting to AI before six weeks post calving is a load of nonsense. They may not hold but on the other hand they might. I find that they have nearly as good a chance as any as long as they are healthy.
We block calf and only started AI on the 23rd, normally 21 days is my cut off, but have had a feel and seem healthy, only been talking to a mate today and one of his herds put up 99% of the herd in three weeks only for most to return as herdsman just put up anything, so am trying for cows to hold not just to have high submission rates and I think you maybe right.
celtis man
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I was told by dan the ai man to serve on the 2nd bulling.
Clay52
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not the most useful advise. What if the first bulling is 60 days.
Kiss
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If she calved yesterday and was bulling today I'd serve it! (Block calving)
Sub rate is a rubbish measure alone you need to look at the short repeats also, high sub rates normally include some intervention or mis calculation I find
Sub rate is a rubbish measure alone you need to look at the short repeats also, high sub rates normally include some intervention or mis calculation I find
Cows 'n grass
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£20 a straw? £20 should get you 2.5 straws.
I'm still on the first round of service and have done 17 days so far and I haven't been serving any very early ones this year. Most will start cycling at day 10-14 and I've definitely had ones served by the bull at this point hold but I never AI much under 30 days. I might be tempted on a good old cow to have a go but if I had a young, late calving cow then I wouldn't want a replacement heifer out of her anyway.
I'm still on the first round of service and have done 17 days so far and I haven't been serving any very early ones this year. Most will start cycling at day 10-14 and I've definitely had ones served by the bull at this point hold but I never AI much under 30 days. I might be tempted on a good old cow to have a go but if I had a young, late calving cow then I wouldn't want a replacement heifer out of her anyway.
Clay52
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You don't no want the replacement out of her but get her pregnant to beef.
buffalo_soldier
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- cumbria
Lowest hit rate I have is in sub 30d serves.
I tend to stay away from them while I'm breeding replacements and do them when breeding to beef. After all a bull wouldn't look up a cows dim before mounting would be.
I tend to stay away from them while I'm breeding replacements and do them when breeding to beef. After all a bull wouldn't look up a cows dim before mounting would be.
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- South Molton
Block calving get them served.
AYR i wait till they are 60 days. Had a cow calf yesterday with a CI of 350.
AYR i wait till they are 60 days. Had a cow calf yesterday with a CI of 350.
multi power
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Anything like this I just put in with the bull
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- South Molton
If you really want to increase preg rate use the cogent moomonitor. Preg rates went from 19 to 26% on the farm in the advert!! Cracking!!
Clay52
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Clay52
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You pay him. Tell him to do it. He doesn't want his figures getting lowered.AI tech just left and his verdict was a big Yeah nah, which is translated back in English as I will be doing her again in 21 days.