Top link leaning towards land one way and towards ploughing when going the other way

beefandsleep

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Location
Staffordshire
Would of said front furrow too wide but then it pulls the other way when you turn over. Is it ploughing same depth both ways? also have you got it set level from right to left, ie when in work are the legs straight. Spirit level is useful if you have a nice flat field to set up on.
 

Skimmer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
North Notts
Are you sure or is it the angle your looking at it, if you look over the same shoulder each way your ploughing it will appear to be doing this.
You could also be hugging the furrow wall more one way than the other.
 

Rookie

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincs / Notts
I would say it is front furrow width. On a lemken if you lengthen turn buckle it increases front furrow width and vice versa, so dont know if rabe is the same? Sometimes if landsides are badly worn plough doesnt run correct either.
 

green giant

Member
Location
Northumberland
Ok here goes with attached picture, the turn buckle for the front furrow is the one with the eye bolt end, and the top link type turn buckle is for plough alinement, turn it one way or the other and it should make the top link run true or go further south so to speak, I may be wrong but that's my understanding of how it works.
 

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Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Ok here goes with attached picture, the turn buckle for the front furrow is the one with the eye bolt end, and the top link type turn buckle is for plough alinement, turn it one way or the other and it should make the top link run true or go further south so to speak, I may be wrong but that's my understanding of how it works.

Yes, but there is no separate adjustment for left and right there. The main adjustment for that, assuming the links are level, is the separate vertical adjustment each side which is what the frame comes to rest on when it is completely turned over. In all probability it is these that are out of adjustment, as someone said causing the front furrow depth to vary. It doesn't necessarily cause the front furrow depth to be out if the top link is adjusted to match of course, and the main way of checking is to make sure that the plough is vertical in work with the legs at 90 degrees to the land. If the adjustment is out, the plough will fairly obviously lean one way or another and if it leans away from turned land it will not invert the furrows tidily.
Also check tyre pressures.

As a last resort check whether any structural member is bent.
 

green giant

Member
Location
Northumberland
Yes, but there is no separate adjustment for left and right there. The main adjustment for that, assuming the links are level, is the separate vertical adjustment each side which is what the frame comes to rest on when it is completely turned over. In all probability it is these that are out of adjustment, as someone said causing the front furrow depth to vary. It doesn't necessarily cause the front furrow depth to be out if the top link is adjusted to match of course, and the main way of checking is to make sure that the plough is vertical in work with the legs at 90 degrees to the land. If the adjustment is out, the plough will fairly obviously lean one way or another and if it leans away from turned land it will not invert the furrows tidily.
Also check tyre pressures.

As a last resort check whether any structural member is bent.

As far as I was reading it was only the top link that wasn't running inline???
Or am I missing something??
 

Donkey Oaty

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
As far as I was reading it was only the top link that wasn't running inline???
Or am I missing something??
Thanks for the replies. I have not come back on the thread before now because the tractor had a draft pin problem and was not sensing. I want to get this fixed and remove this variable. From the comments, the only thing that sounds likely is that the landslides are well worn at the moment. I will try to post some pictures of it ploughing tomorrow.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
As far as I was reading it was only the top link that wasn't running inline???
Or am I missing something??
The top link is fixed at one end to the centre-line of the tractor and at the other end to the fixed headstock of the plough. Unless the front furrow width has been adjusted as the plough has been turned, the headstock should run at the same angle both ways down the field be that straight and true or either to unploughed land or away. Not alternating.

I think it was you that made the point about an alignment ram? It could be that if there was some kind of memory feature on such a ram and it aligned the bodies every time it was turned and it had some kind of fault, it would be an issue. I have no experience of such an issue. Should be quite simple to check the length of such a ram to ensure it was the same length regardless of which way round the plough was turned.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Thanks for the replies. I have not come back on the thread before now because the tractor had a draft pin problem and was not sensing. I want to get this fixed and remove this variable. From the comments, the only thing that sounds likely is that the landslides are well worn at the moment. I will try to post some pictures of it ploughing tomorrow.

Worn landsides tend to allow the plough to be pushed to the unploughed side so the top link would angle [and the whole plough run] towards the land side both ways up the field.
 

R tea

Member
i would guess its slightly deeper one side than the other, or like has been suggested its the way your looking at it. Look over the other shoulder and see if it solves the problem.
 

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