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RobFZS

Member
ok, so 64% of our electorate can be safely ignored?
England is dragging us out, unless you went to one of those special schools where they teach that 64% is less than 36%.
Norway is now one of the richest countries on earth, with nearly half a million krone per head of population invested in their oil fund.
Where did scotlands oil wealth go?
you're making yourself a strawman, you're part of the Uk, your fellow scots dragged you out of the Eu

Erm Schools, hospitals, roads?
 

RobFZS

Member
Did you ever do maths? 64 is greater than 36 , at least on this planet.
Norway seems to have schools, hospitals and roads too, and a huge chunk of cash.
64% is irrelevant when you voted in a countrywide referendum, maybe if little Nicky did a better job of convincing Scot's the Eu was great, we'd still be in it? ;)

The moneys gone, spent up, mostly when the scot nats were in the minority, what do you want, a back dated cheque? :LOL:
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Scotland needs to cast off from the sinking uk before it gets dragged down with it.
No you are wrong, the best thing that could have happened after the EU ref is the England and Wales left the UK and then Scotland and NI would have been the UK and could have stayed in the EU (y)
that would have solved a few problems :D

the only problem for you is you wanted to leave the EU or you said as much on here but it seems by what you have said on this thread that you have changed your mind
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
64% is irrelevant when you voted in a countrywide referendum, maybe if little Nicky did a better job of convincing Scot's the Eu was great, we'd still be in it? ;)
I take it you are saying that if everyone in Scotland that voted leave had voted remain we would be staying in
 

RobFZS

Member
I take it you are saying that if everyone in Scotland that voted leave had voted remain we would be staying in
You could say that, i'm just trying to get it in to glasshouses head that the Scot's had a fair share of the 'blame' if he's whinging about leaving the Eu
 

hindmaist

Member
"Tenuous grip of history"? :facepalm:

If your giving out a history lesson, then you've forgotten to mention that the Act of Union (1707) was brought about a by an ambitious Scottish Government who had sought trade and influence abroad by sending 3000 men to the Darien region of what is now Panama, and creating the colony of 'New Caledonia', with its capital : 'New Edinburgh'. It undoubtedly failed due to the embargo ordered by King William, and the disastrous choice of starting a colony in a malarial swamp.
https://www.nls.uk/exhibitions/treasures/scotland-and-darien

Of "the Scottish people who were never asked", more than 2000 of them were investors.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27405350
"The disaster helped end Scotland's independence. For the colony had been funded by public subscription - an early example of a financial mania.
Public bodies, town corporations, members of parliament, landed gentry, and thousands of private citizens - sea captains and surgeons, apothecaries and ironmongers - sank their life savings into the scheme.
Between a quarter and a half of the available wealth of Scotland was spent, and lost."

And the real lesson from history?
- don't support a tin pot 'government' that can't deliver on its promises.
The British version of history.
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Let me guess. The English were to blame... and glasshouse is still bitter.
Darien was irrelevant, its just english propaganda to make out we are incompetent, when they did everything possible to knacker it.
The act of union was bought with bribery and threats, end of.
Democracy didnt feature.
 
I'm just a little tired of the English being responsible for everything bad that has happened to Scotland in the last 310 yrs.
It patently isn't true and a majority of your fellow Scots must have felt the same during the referendum otherwise why did they vote to stay in? Oh wait of course that was a conspiracy by the ENGLISH and their bully boys press machine. nothing to do with the NATs failure to make the economic and European case of course not.
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
I'm just a little tired of the English being responsible for everything bad that has happened to Scotland in the last 310 yrs.
It patently isn't true and a majority of your fellow Scots must have felt the same during the referendum otherwise why did they vote to stay in? Oh wait of course that was a conspiracy by the ENGLISH and their bully boys press machine. nothing to do with the NATs failure to make the economic and European case of course not.
310 yrs? try 800.
You shouldnt take it personally, its just historical fact.
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Darien was irrelevant, its just english propaganda to make out we are incompetent, when they did everything possible to knacker it.
The act of union was bought with bribery and threats, end of.
Democracy didnt feature.


Anyway, i am retiring now, its time for my nightly bottle of buckfast.
That should help wash down the sour grapes :D
 

Woolgatherer

Member
Location
Angus
55.3% voted to stay in U.K., 44. 7% voted to be independent. That is percentage of people who bothered to get off their a**ses and vote at all (84.6% of the electorate voted). Not accurate to quote percentage of Scots who voted to stay or go if you don't take into consideration the % who didn't vote at all.
Also it shouldn't be said Scotland voted to remain in Europe, 67% of the Scottish electorate voted altogether (62% remain, 38% leave) but 33% didn't vote at all, we could assume they didn't care either way? Sorry about the long winded post but it annoys me when people say Scotland are getting dragged out against our will - 71% either wanted to leave the eu or didn't care!
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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    Votes: 79 42.0%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 66 35.1%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 30 16.0%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 7 3.7%

Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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