Topcon AGI-4 upgrade to RTK

[bartdereu]

Hi all,

i own a Fendt 718 SCR which came wit a built in Topcon AGI-4 GPS , on EGNOS . I've wanted to upgrade it to RTK and i found a radio module
that i bought. Now when i opened the reciever, i noted that the IMU (the gyro module) was not installed , even do i have gyro readings on my
varioterminal (heading , etc...) they must come from the reciever itself.

Now, when i installed the radio module in the reciever and booted it up, i didn't get the RTK option in the dropown, only the signals that i had
before where there (Autonome, Egnos, Omnistar ) .

Question is, does the reciever only work on RTK when the gyro is installed? And can i get a gyro ?

thanks allot for any advice !

 

[Richard Smyth]

You will need the gyro at least that’s what I was told when wanting to do the same. I also think you will need an unlock to access rtk but could be wrong

 

[Northern farmer]

No unlocks on the Topcon AGI-4 (or one can say that the plugin HW includes the unlock). You do need the gyro and the modem for RTK. I've never tried it without the gyro, perhaps the menus are disabled until all necessary components are present.

 

[bartdereu]

I've mailed the dealer to get me a price. I wonder what price it will be.

 

[Northern farmer]

If I remember right, each plug-in box was more than 2500 Euros (VAT 0%) some time in 2013 or so.

 

[bartdereu]

If I remember right, each plug-in box was more than 2500 Euros (VAT 0%) some time in 2013 or so.

Well that's not going to happen then . I can get a complete RTK unit for that money. (second hand, that is).

Bought the radio for 750 GBP

 

[Spencer]

I have done just this recently, plug in gyro and radio are both required.

Misc.Machinery AGI 4 HP2 PLUG IN | FarmAds

www.farmads.co.uk

 

[Northern farmer]

I have done just this recently, plug in gyro and radio are both required.

Can you clarify, the gyro is certainly required but have you tested with the modem only to see if the RTK option appears in the menus (centimetre accuracy) or only when both are installed?

EDIT: a good find that gyro as an individual sales item. The site had several kits of gyro plus modem too. I just hate these sales sites how people categorise their sales items. If you search under the precision farming products, you will not find any of these modems or gyros. Without the link from Spencer I did not manage to find the gyro at all. Browsing all items at the miscellaneous category did not work for pages after 10, except the last one 17 (firefox). I guess they sell well enough even if they only reach less than 10% of interested customers.

PS. I tried to reach a German company selling Novatel at the AGCO Trader. Did not reach the specific sales person, did not get any response from the company head of sales...

 

[Spencer]

Can you clarify, the gyro is certainly required but have you tested with the modem only to see if the RTK option appears in the menus (centimetre accuracy) or only when both are installed?

EDIT: a good find that gyro as an individual sales item. The site had several kits of gyro plus modem too. I just hate these sales sites how people categorise their sales items. If you search under the precision farming products, you will not find any of these modems or gyros. Without the link from Spencer I did not manage to find the gyro at all. Browsing all items at the miscellaneous category did not work for pages after 10, except the last one 17 (firefox). I guess they sell well enough even if they only reach less than 10% of interested customers.

PS. I tried to reach a German company selling Novatel at the AGCO Trader. Did not reach the specific sales person, did not get any response from the company head of sales...

I never tried without the gyro as the manual says it’s required and I found both for sale second hand on above site. And once I was into the dome in cab roof never thought to try only radio. I did however end up buying another radio as I then went down the mobile base station route to avoid annual subscriptions and the channel frequency didnt match the base I found Now looking at making a mobile/fixed base out of it with externals aerials..
So I have a spare radio if anyone’s interested?

I know what you mean about the listings but good deals often take some finding...

 

[bartdereu]

I have done just this recently, plug in gyro and radio are both required.

Misc.Machinery AGI 4 HP2 PLUG IN | FarmAds

www.farmads.co.uk

This is actually pretty funny as it is the same seller i bought the radio from..haha. Already contacted him.

Price for a new one was ... 3500€'s ! (only for the gyro... pretty nuts)

 

[Spencer]

This is actually pretty funny as it is the same seller i bought the radio from..haha. Already contacted him.

Price for a new one was ... 3500€'s ! (only for the gyro... pretty nuts)

Well he should get you fixed up then

 

[Robt]

It won’t work without. Gyro. It needs to see both rtk module and Imu (gyro)

 

[bartdereu]

For some reason , that seller doesn respond. Strange. Anyone else have a IMU for sale ? I would love to hear!

 

[John]

Anyone know what a new agi4 with rtk. Costs new?

 

[Will Blackburn]

£5/6k

 

[Spencer]

£5/6k

Unlocked for RTK?

 

[Will Blackburn]

Unlocked for RTK?

Works with the hardware purchase rather than unlocks.

 

[Spencer]

Works with the hardware purchase rather than unlocks.

Yes sorry, I meant with gyro and radio?

 

[bartdereu]

Price for Radio + IMU module only is 7000€ here in Belgium, so i doubt it

I finally found a IMU for a good deal !

 

[bartdereu]

Hey All,

i recieved my module and installed them both. I could setup my RTK settings and all works, but i can't get 3G network, it always stays on 2G and Roaming.
I'm pretty sure my internet provider settings are correct, does the topcon agi-4 even support 3G ? Because i can get the RTK data in, but it takes a long time
before i get a 2cm accuracy.