Total Lockdown?

[gone up the hill]

Case numbers went sky high because universities went back. Thousands of drinking age adults spread to every corner of the country and the mingled with local population down the pubs.

It was both schools and Uni's etc down here.

Problem with uni's is the fact students from all over the country end up living in shared houses etc and no way in hell they are not spending time/ getting intimate with each other when locked up in their dorms/ houses for weeks on end!

 

[beardface]

It was both schools and Uni's etc down here.

Problem with uni's is the fact students from all over the country end up living in shared houses etc and no way in hell they are not spending time/ getting intimate with each other when locked up in their dorms/ houses for weeks on end!

Schools were localised with children often mixing with peers they'd been mixing with over the holidays. Universities were the main culprit as weve both seemingly agreed from our posts that the mixing of booze age adolescents from every area of the country was a bad idea.

 

[Ukjay]

Only once and that was in 96 when store cattle dropped £150 head that week when BSE hit the headlines.

For example sheep i buy this week will be sent into the food chain in 2/3 months time, if they cannot be traded then they wont go into the food chain in 2/3 months and then there will be food shortages to add to the problems.

If you think livestock markets should close then i assume you believe that supermarkets should also close??

I know when i am at most risk of catching the virus and it certainly isnt the livestock market!

We do not go to supermarkets, and we haven't for many years, all is currently dropped off at doorstep and the staff are very good at maintaining distances.
We do however go to the local butchers etc though - so I suppose I'm guilty in Part even though we wear face masks etc.

As for marts, your opinion on safety is duly noted, but I would ponder not all mart attendees comply just because it is farmers who attend. There are good and bad people in all environments...

 

[Wombat]

I hope our school has learnt a bit from the first one and do some online learning this time.

 

[ridger]

Local shops could not supply the amount of food needed would be the problem.

Don't forget with all pubs etc closed then all the food that would have been consumed at those places now has to be purchased else where.

They could. No problem. At least over here anyway.

 

[The Agrarian]

Boris was so definite yesterday on TV about schools being utterly safe, and young people being utterly safe.
24 hours later he’s closing them down!
What’s the story?

Of course schools are safe for kids. The definition of safety depends entirely upon what your risk level is. So for most kids and their parents, that is nothing to worry about.
The difficulty seems to be that grandparents are not keeping themselves safe. But somehow the solution seems to be to penalise all kids and their working parents, and the economy.

 

[Ukjay]

Of course schools are safe for kids. The definition of safety depends entirely upon what your risk level is. So for most kids and their parents, that is nothing to worry about.
The difficulty seems to be that grandparents are not keeping themselves safe. But somehow the solution seems to be to penalise all kids and their working parents, and the economy.

And the real elephant in the closet that some shy away from - and a moral one at that: is why does it appear that we are only looking after all the aging people, whilst putting at risk the ones who inadvertently are the ones who we need to pay into the coffers in order to pay down the increased debt...

Where do you draw the line here...

 

[caveman]

Of course schools are safe for kids. The definition of safety depends entirely upon what your risk level is. So for most kids and their parents, that is nothing to worry about.
The difficulty seems to be that grandparents are not keeping themselves safe. But somehow the solution seems to be to penalise all kids and their working parents, and the economy.

So its only grandparents who are filling up the hospitals then?

 

[Daniel]

My wife was at work today teaching her year 6 class, and at 8.12pm this evening had to start work on turning tomorrows lessons into online lessons.

Lunacy.

 

[Danllan]

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Good to see that you think there will be no Labour government by 2035.

 

[Hindsight]

I'd like to see supermarkets closed this time to give smaller shops a chance

Yep it just gets better and better for TESCO. Just be them left come the summer.

 

[jendan]

Schools shouldn't be closing in my opinion. Yet again government bow to outside pressure. Wish they'd bloody grow a pair

Schools are superspreaders!

 

[The Agrarian]

So its only grandparents who are filling up the hospitals then?

Mostly, yes. As you've heard JCmalony say repeatedly on the I've got it thread that most very sick patients are over sixty, with a comorbidity. A 68&3/4 year old grandparent is 32 times more likely to die from Covid than a 40 year old parent, based upon a doubling of risk for every 5.75 years of increasing age.

 

[graham99]

Yes didn’t you hear Boris at 8pm??

Like lockdown 1 in March 2020

what an insult to mr bean , but boris might using mr bean as a role modle

 

[stewart]

Will livestock auctions be off then?

They should be closed permanently, outdated way of selling stock and a source of infection for livestock.

 

[ollie989898]

Mostly, yes. As you've heard JCmalony say repeatedly on the I've got it thread that most very sick patients are over sixty, with a comorbidity. A 68&3/4 year old grandparent is 32 times more likely to die from Covid than a 40 year old parent, based upon a doubling of risk for every 5.75 years of increasing age.

It's not so much age as the comorbidities that are associated with age.

I can dig the material out later but if you have condition X and Y, your risk from covid increases 70 times IIRC.

 

[Lowland1]

It's not so much age as the comorbidities that are associated with age.

I can dig the material out later but if you have condition X and Y, your risk from covid increases 70 times IIRC.

So by now everyone knows their risk so if you are a fat diabetic 65 year old you'd better stay at home however if you are a healthy active 7 year old keen to learn and wanting social interaction you have to stay at home because you might infect someone who possibly until now hasn't thought their health really is their responsibility. Surely at some point in all of this someone in some position of responsibility has to stand up in front of a big chart on national TV and point at it and say ' Grandma and Grandad you know you're in trouble but if you're fat or diabetic or asthmatic or have a heart condition or whatever you're chances of dying are increased by X% so stay inside if you're in these group's and to the rest of the population you say here's your risk level you know the score by now off you go.

 

[beardface]

Schools are superspreaders!

Theres been no more cases at my wife's school than in the general population. Its a myth. University students are super spreaders as they were mixing with more people at the beginning of their term.

 

[Ukjay]

It's not so much age as the comorbidities that are associated with age.

I can dig the material out later but if you have condition X and Y, your risk from covid increases 70 times IIRC.

But ollie,

There lies the issue in all the misinformation being spread. People appear not to be dying from pre existing conditions - they are dying from Covid... Allegedly.

If the media and news were locked down and prohibited from casting their own take on what is going on, and could only report out on medically sanctioned reports of the facts etc - I personally feel we would be in a far better place right now.

You only need to read comments on here, and how people interpret what is going on to realise things can get twisted, so it is obvious the news and media will do it far worse.

Even immediately after the report from the PM, you could clearly hear their spin and assumptions in the newsreader outputs... It's a joke that they are allowed to continue to do this in a situation like we are in.

A lot of people are gullible and take verbatim what they say, panic, resentment etc come off the back of it and we spiral out of control...

 

[Johnnyboxer]

what an insult to mr bean , but boris might using mr bean as a role modle

Insult ?

Why can’t some grasp the seriousness of the situation?