Towing car

Smiffy101

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Would a mitsubishi shogun sport be to big ??
Or a kia sorento the older ones tow 3.5tonne
Or a ssangyong double cab is a lot smaller than others
 

Mur Huwcun

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Livestock Farmer
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North West Wales
Been looking into this recently. Most Volvo XC60 are 2000kg although some 2400 should be out there! Tiquan and Q5s go up to 2409kg on the 2.0 TDI but the 2.4 in the Volvo sounds nicer!!
 

Smiffy101

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Not Jean on Kia’s Shogun sport same size as old l200 aren’t they? Might have a look a the sangyoung though

As it doesnt have a pickup bed there is a couple of feet less over hang behind the back axle makes them slightly more practical in some senses like you can reach in the boot from the back unlike a pickup
 

Cowabunga

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Ceredigion,Wales
To tow 2.5 tons you need something substantial. Something the size of a Classic Range Rover, or Discovery1 or 2, which only have a 100 inch wheelbase. That is small in car terms but tall. Ignore the tall part.
 

Martin Holden

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Trade
Location
Cheltenham
To tow 2.5 tons you need something substantial. Something the size of a Classic Range Rover, or Discovery1 or 2, which only have a 100 inch wheelbase. That is small in car terms but tall. Ignore the tall part.
That’s the best bit of advice for the OP. Don’t get a vehicle that “will just do it” Build in a little extra and you won’t regret it. If you can find a good Kia Sorento or something similar this would not “upset” your brand aware customers and isn’t a bad vehicle so I’m told.
 

Two Tone

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Mixed Farmer
To tow 2.5 tons you need something substantial. Something the size of a Classic Range Rover, or Discovery1 or 2, which only have a 100 inch wheelbase. That is small in car terms but tall. Ignore the tall part.
Quite right @Cowabunga
So many people have no idea that it's not the ability to tow that matters, it's the ability to be able to stop the trailer that is important. That is why so many vehicles that you think would be able to tow 2.5 to 3.5 tonnes can't. Mostly because they are of insufficient weight to be able to work an overrun brake system.
 

Rowland

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That’s the best bit of advice for the OP. Don’t get a vehicle that “will just do it” Build in a little extra and you won’t regret it. If you can find a good Kia Sorento or something similar this would not “upset” your brand aware customers and isn’t a bad vehicle so I’m told.
I’ve already done that ! Most of the time I tow either side of 2 ton so to be on the safe side I’d like a bit more capability. I’ll skip on the Kia daughter in law has one and it’s a bit cheep a cheerful.
 

ste stuart

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Location
bolton
I've a grand cherokee and for its ability it's fairly compact and nimble, tow 3.5 ton with ease and really comfy to sit in. Mines an 04 so fuel consumption isn't brilliant but think the new one would be better
 

Rowland

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Quite right @Cowabunga
So many people have no idea that it's not the ability to tow that matters, it's the ability to be able to stop the trailer that is important. That is why so many vehicles that you think would be able to tow 2.5 to 3.5 tonnes can't. Mostly because they are of insufficient weight to be able to work an overrun brake system.
It’s more likely that the brakes on the trailer aren’t adjusted correctly so the trailer pushes the vehicle . Much like a lot of tractor and trailer setups these days.
 

335d

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Went through this several years ago with vehicles up to 2013. Of the small suv,s the Tiguan has the highest legal towing weight of 2200kg. Rav 4 was around 2000kg, similar to Audi A6 estate and Freelander . e class Mercedes estate was slightly more than 2000kg. Possibly 2100 or 2050.
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
It’s more likely that the brakes on the trailer aren’t adjusted correctly so the trailer pushes the vehicle . Much like a lot of tractor and trailer setups these days.
Brakes on the trailer rely on pushing the towing vehicle to work. This is most unlike agricultural tractors and trailers, so I have no earthly idea where you got that little gem of misconception from.

The issue with over-run brakes is not so much on dry tarmac but on slippery surfaces but, significantly so, on bends. Especially where a lighter vehicle is towing. The trailer, even with good over-run brakes, can push the arse of the vehicle out. Hence the need for a good, reasonably heavy and substantial tow vehicle relative to the trailer.

I have a Honda CR-V that is rated to tow 1.7 tons but I would only ever consider towing that weight with it in an emergency. I'd personally limit it to two tons even in the direst emergency, and it is not a small car. That kind of SUV is based on a car drivetrain, in this case the Civic. Yes it's a bit bigger and heavier than a Civic, but not by so much, and the gearing and drivetrain build, including the clutch, just isn't up to it on even moderate hills. That's just my opinion, but I seldom [If ever] see such a car with more than a twin axle caravan behind, which likely weighs considerably less than 1.5 tons complete with gas bottles and full water tanks etc.

To tow 2.5 tons above 35mph, I would aim for a vehicle that weighs 2 tons or more and has a 3 ton legal towing limit.
 

Rowland

Member
Brakes on the trailer rely on pushing the towing vehicle to work. This is most unlike agricultural tractors and trailers, so I have no earthly idea where you got that little gem of misconception from.

The issue with over-run brakes is not so much on dry tarmac but on slippery surfaces but, significantly so, on bends. Especially where a lighter vehicle is towing. The trailer, even with good over-run brakes, can push the arse of the vehicle out. Hence the need for a good, reasonably heavy and substantial tow vehicle relative to the trailer.

I have a Honda CR-V that is rated to tow 1.7 tons but I would only ever consider towing that weight with it in an emergency. I'd personally limit it to two tons even in the direst emergency, and it is not a small car. That kind of SUV is based on a car drivetrain, in this case the Civic. Yes it's a bit bigger and heavier than a Civic, but not by so much, and the gearing and drivetrain build, including the clutch, just isn't up to it on even moderate hills. That's just my opinion, but I seldom [If ever] see such a car with more than a twin axle caravan behind, which likely weighs considerably less than 1.5 tons complete with gas bottles and full water tanks etc.

To tow 2.5 tons above 35mph, I would aim for a vehicle that weighs 2 tons or more and has a 3 ton legal towing limit.
If the brakes on the trailer don’t work then it will push the towing vehicle.
I got that gem from experience
 

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