Toxovax and Enzovax Prices

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
I have just bought my first batch of Toxovax at £4.99/dose. I thought that was bad enough!

I was quoted £7.25 for Enzo & Toxo together, so I’d suggest somebody is maybe lifting your leg? Unless your quoted prices are actually inc VAT, quoted by mistake, as we had posted last year iirc.
 

Nithsdale

Member
Livestock Farmer
I only get the Ceva (Enzo) vaccine... haven't seen the bill this year (got the vaccine 2 weeks ago, so bill isn't in yet) but it was only around £1.80 for 140 doses last year. I really can't see it jumping to £3
 

Guiggs

Member
Location
Leicestershire
I have just bought my first batch of Toxovax at £4.99/dose. I thought that was bad enough!

I was quoted £7.25 for Enzo & Toxo together, so I’d suggest somebody is maybe lifting your leg? Unless your quoted prices are actually inc VAT, quoted by mistake, as we had posted last year iirc.

I paid about 5 and a half quid + vat for it last year, its starting to take the pee, I'm considering not bothering this year!:oops:
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
With ewe prices where they are it makes vaccination costs look low but the risk of selling lambs in 12 months time for less than they cost to production being high. :rolleyes: At least when one bets at the Casino there are no escaped animals to chase, or maggots or footrot. :unsure:
 

AftonShepherd

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Ayrshire
We were thinking of cutting one or both out to reduce cost but the vet reckons he doesn't know anyone that has cut them out and not eventually regretted it. Maybe right, maybe wrong but jagging again this year.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
We were thinking of cutting one or both out to reduce cost but the vet reckons he doesn't know anyone that has cut them out and not eventually regretted it. Maybe right, maybe wrong but jagging again this year.

Is it not best viewed as you would insurance? You might get away without it, but it hurts mightily if you’re unlucky enough to get hit. Every farm will have a different level of risk, according to the system they run.

I have always farmed sheep near houses, and their cats, so Toxovax would be the last vaccination I would drop. As a closed flock, I dropped Enzovac a few years back, but will be restarting this year as neighbours had an outbreak and a little bit of afterbirth carried by a crow can set it off in a naive flock (as I know from past history:( ).

I do know of someone with a previously closed flock (& not vaccinated), who changed to buying in replacements from the marts again last year. He managed to be unlucky enough to bring in Campy, Toxo and EAE, all in one year! Ouch.
 

AftonShepherd

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Ayrshire
Is it not best viewed as you would insurance? You might get away without it, but it hurts mightily if you’re unlucky enough to get hit. Every farm will have a different level of risk, according to the system they run.

I have always farmed sheep near houses, and their cats, so Toxovax would be the last vaccination I would drop. As a closed flock, I dropped Enzovac a few years back, but will be restarting this year as neighbours had an outbreak and a little bit of afterbirth carried by a crow can set it off in a naive flock (as I know from past history:( ).

I do know of someone with a previously closed flock (& not vaccinated), who changed to buying in replacements from the marts again last year. He managed to be unlucky enough to bring in Campy, Toxo and EAE, all in one year! Ouch.
Absolutely true.

As vet pointed out, Toxo is probably the riskiest one to cut out and it's the dearest so if you're handling them for it you might as well do both.

We've had 2 Enzo outbreaks in different hefts in the past but the business has evolved so neither suspected source is a threat nowadays. As you say though easily spread by crows.
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
Is it not best viewed as you would insurance? You might get away without it, but it hurts mightily if you’re unlucky enough to get hit. Every farm will have a different level of risk, according to the system they run.

I have always farmed sheep near houses, and their cats, so Toxovax would be the last vaccination I would drop. As a closed flock, I dropped Enzovac a few years back, but will be restarting this year as neighbours had an outbreak and a little bit of afterbirth carried by a crow can set it off in a naive flock (as I know from past history:( ).

I do know of someone with a previously closed flock (& not vaccinated), who changed to buying in replacements from the marts again last year. He managed to be unlucky enough to bring in Campy, Toxo and EAE, all in one year! Ouch.
How did you go about dropping the enzovacc? The way i thought it infected ewes pass it on via the rams so the only way too drop it would be a whole flock cull and restart? Or buy new rams for ewe lambs and keep them separate until the older infected ewes got culled….
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
How did you go about dropping the enzovacc? The way i thought it infected ewes pass it on via the rams so the only way too drop it would be a whole flock cull and restart? Or buy new rams for ewe lambs and keep them separate until the older infected ewes got culled….

Just stop vaccinating and those individuals aren’t covered against that particular disease, the same as most other vaccines.

I’ve never heard of rams spreading it.:scratchhead: It’s spread from ewe to ewe, usually via aborted material (which may be carried from next door).
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
Just stop vaccinating and those individuals aren’t covered against that particular disease, the same as most other vaccines.

I’ve never heard of rams spreading it.:scratchhead: It’s spread from ewe to ewe, usually via aborted material (which may be carried from next door).
Iv never done any research in too it so not something I’d ever profess too know much about.. I just know it’s basically clamydia in sheep so had no need too question what I was Told years ago that rams pass it from sheep too sheep as Iv Definatly used my ram too pass clamydia on too a few sheep in my younger days 😅😅😅
 

Bob the beef

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Scot Borders
There are a few health treatments I would drop before toxo/enzo if money was tight. Might save a few hundred quid at this time if year, but as @neilo says, it’s a very good insurance policy. 100 aborted lambs in spring is a real kick in the nuts. And then you have to start the flock on the system again .
 

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