dreambollocks
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The older type Renault were beasts as well apparently, some deathly slopes worked with them . Same and lambo as well that’s what the contractors doing the worst slopes used in the 90s
Thinking back didn't the Same have a 4wd propshaft through the sump to keep the centre of gravity down on the hills.The older type Renault were beasts as well apparently, some deathly slopes worked with them . Same and lambo as well that’s what the contractors doing the worst slopes used in the 90s
Front brakes are available on many brands and unless they have abs are of little if any significance compared to braking through the drivetrain. I have both and use both on the slopes, many of which would spell disaster if the brakes were used at all.Other than the fact that they both have integral front brakes, so stop very well on steep slopes...additionally the Landini's have a bull gear system in the rear final drive, so DO have a lower centre of gravity
What the duck said at the top but be very aware that any ballast added to the front for stability with a heavy load attached to the rear should be removed when not required. Too much weight on the front on steep slopes can completely unbalance the tractor. The same also applies to a front end loader on steep ground
So do many others have either an offset sump or one that has a hump in the middle for the shaft and a drain plug both sides, such as four cylinder MF 5400 and 6400 series tractors.Thinking back didn't the Same have a 4wd propshaft through the sump to keep the centre of gravity down on the hills.
Are you talking 36% or degrees? I cut bracken on 36 degree slopes and I wouldn't want anyone trying it without a lot of experience. 36% is a flat field hereHi All,
If this question has already been answered then apologies for the post but I couldn't find an easy way to search previous threads and would appreciate some advice on tractor selection, please.
We've moved from the flat land of Oxfordshire to the slopes of Somerset with 36% gradients in places across 30 acres. Not being an experienced driver on sloping land I'd be interested in what tractors you'd go for with a £25K +VAT budget. We're breeding horses, I know madness (she got me drunk one night) so harrowing, rolling, mowing, spraying and taking away muck to a neighbour, as well as hedgerow management and doing our own fencing.
I'm debating between a JD6320 (8.5K hours), McCormick T100 Max (2K hours) or possibly an Alpine for extra safety (no experience with them), all with a fitted loader. Assume the JD and McCormick will need wheel weights.... any other advice, thoughts or views gratefully received.
Many thanks...
It's not the height. It's that you have a significant weight located out in the back corners of the tractor.Not sure how bull gears lower the centre of gravity. You’ll have to explain that one because usually the diff and axles, even the gearbox are mounted higher when bull gears are employed on tractors and Landini seem to have a similar design to David Brown in that regard. I’m fairly sure nobody ever claimed that DB had a low centre of gravity relatively speaking.
I'm just worried I'll agree to more horses.... a one way journey to being skint!Save the money and get a contractor in to do the work.
Use the money to buy more alcohol.
You're probably going to need it.
You only have one gear and housing each side as opposed to whole axle right at the back at the wheel centre, most of which is well forward of the wheel centre line with bull gear reductions, and higher up.It's not the height. It's that you have a significant weight located out in the back corners of the tractor.
I grew up on the North Downs in Kent driving an old Fergie so have had some pant pooping experiences It was a long time ago so I'm out of date with current thoughts on machinery and to be honest out of practice driving them. Yes we've got Sheep for the bits beyond the inaccessible parts. Thank you for your adviceIf you are used to flat fields then the centre of gravity or make of tractor will make little difference. You will lose your nerve or poop your pants long before it tips over.
36% is quite a slope to go across. 4wd, good brakes and tyres are the most important. Generally you are in control going uphill with good tyres but a loader makes the tractor quite different as does a roller especially pointing downhill when it may push you sideways.
Can you not just mow, roll the eash bits and grazd the steepest? You can do fencing on foot if needed and just carry stuff.
Yes 36%... you couldn't roll a marble on our last place so any "real" elevation is a new experience.Are you talking 36% or degrees? I cut bracken on 36 degree slopes and I wouldn't want anyone trying it without a lot of experience. 36% is a flat field here
I don't pretend to be an expert or super brave,just have to work on the ground we've got. Better be a live coward than a dead hero. A lot of fatal accidents over the years have been tractors and quads on slopes.Yes 36%... you couldn't roll a marble on our last place so any "real" elevation is a new experience.
If it's steep enough to need dual wheels, you don't want a trailed spreader. Make sure the stabilisers are tight and it won't bang about.why not just get dual wheels for use on the slopes, and maybe for fertliser spreading, think about using a towed taskers type spreader, so you don't have a heavy weight banging from side to side as you turn.
Taskers are relatively unstable things running on what is effectively a tripod. No thanks! Not on proper slopes.why not just get dual wheels for use on the slopes, and maybe for fertliser spreading, think about using a towed taskers type spreader, so you don't have a heavy weight banging from side to side as you turn. I worked on a farm in Australia, and he had dual wheels on his loader tractor (as the loader bucket had hungry boards for loading super), I remember talking to my neighbours brother too and he said he was making all his gates 14' as his ground had a lot of slopes and he always used dual wheels too. May struggle to find a good taskers fertispread now as they are very old by the way.