- Location
- Lincolnshire
I’ve recently moved over to a T7.315, and its probably the best riding wheeled tractor i’ve been in 
Tractor comfort
- Thread starter Hillside
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Frankzy
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- Location
- Jamtland, Sweden
I feel like a lot of people overlook a very big factor and that is whether the seat is dampened in all directions, so not just lateral dampening fore and aft, but also side to side!
In all the tractors I've sat in it's always the ones with the latter type of seat that ends up being comfiest.
An example is that I prefer driving the older MF 8690 over the 8740S because the 8740 I drove didn't have side dampening while the 8690 did. So despite the supposedly improved suspension of the 8700S it was all undone by the seat...
In short: the seat is a really quite important.
In all the tractors I've sat in it's always the ones with the latter type of seat that ends up being comfiest.
An example is that I prefer driving the older MF 8690 over the 8740S because the 8740 I drove didn't have side dampening while the 8690 did. So despite the supposedly improved suspension of the 8700S it was all undone by the seat...
In short: the seat is a really quite important.
Finn farmer
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That's because it's designed for northern winters. It does have vents low down also iirc? MF didn't and it was a pain to wait for the frost to melt from windows at -35°C
Had one of the first NH dynamic command T6 here on demo
Apart from the awful cab layout and silly blister pad of buttons, it was a lovely, err, gearbox....... Even my 9 year old boy said that it was very bouncy!!!!
Dealer brought the NH "product specialist" out to see me. I made the mistake of pointing out all the gearbox software control that was still "missing" from what felt like a prototype not a production demonstrator. I then compounded my error by explaining how to improve the suspension (it's what I studied for my PhD)....
"Product specialist" didn't have a clue, and no interest whatsoever in hearing anything that might improve their "product".
Long story short, I bought this
Comfort is in a different league
Apart from the awful cab layout and silly blister pad of buttons, it was a lovely, err, gearbox....... Even my 9 year old boy said that it was very bouncy!!!!
Dealer brought the NH "product specialist" out to see me. I made the mistake of pointing out all the gearbox software control that was still "missing" from what felt like a prototype not a production demonstrator. I then compounded my error by explaining how to improve the suspension (it's what I studied for my PhD)....
"Product specialist" didn't have a clue, and no interest whatsoever in hearing anything that might improve their "product".
Long story short, I bought this
Comfort is in a different league
Having run New Hollands in the past and having had dealings with some of NHs management this doesn't surprise me they don't take well to being given some pointers as to how to improve their tractors. We no longer run New Hollands.Had one of the first NH dynamic command T6 here on demo
Apart from the awful cab layout and silly blister pad of buttons, it was a lovely, err, gearbox....... Even my 9 year old boy said that it was very bouncy!!!!
Dealer brought the NH "product specialist" out to see me. I made the mistake of pointing out all the gearbox software control that was still "missing" from what felt like a prototype not a production demonstrator. I then compounded my error by explaining how to improve the suspension (it's what I studied for my PhD)....
"Product specialist" didn't have a clue, and no interest whatsoever in hearing anything that might improve their "product".
Long story short, I bought this
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michael N123
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Do you not think the green lights are the same as hanging a rainbow flag in the windowHad one of the first NH dynamic command T6 here on demo
Apart from the awful cab layout and silly blister pad of buttons, it was a lovely, err, gearbox....... Even my 9 year old boy said that it was very bouncy!!!!
Dealer brought the NH "product specialist" out to see me. I made the mistake of pointing out all the gearbox software control that was still "missing" from what felt like a prototype not a production demonstrator. I then compounded my error by explaining how to improve the suspension (it's what I studied for my PhD)....
"Product specialist" didn't have a clue, and no interest whatsoever in hearing anything that might improve their "product".
Long story short, I bought this
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@del_boy tagged me at the start of this thread but I have only just got here to reply. It was me that started the thread on converting CNH tractors to air suspension a couple of years ago since then I have built a few kits for fellow TFF members which in turn has led me to starting Superglide suspension where the company offers suspension upgrade kits for many models of CNH tractors. It has been an interesting journey for an engineering minded farmer and I'm now asked for upgrade kits for all brands almost on a daily basis.
I have learnt a lot over the last couple of years on the development of tractor suspension but what will come of a surprise to many, is that very little is developed by the manufactures, it is done by specialist independent company's. These companies patent innovations which mean competing companies have to find different solutions to the same problem sometimes with compromised or sometimes better results which is where you find slight differences between brands at times. I have been fortunate enough to see some of the technology that is available as well as test prototypes for many brands of tractors. What manufactures end up using is a balance of cost, reliability and performance.
The top end of the Suspension development current sits at fully active suspension, this technology uses a special camera to read the bump in front of wheel, a hydraulic ram then lifts the wheel over the bump at exactly the correct distance and velocity for chassis to not react to the bump at all! We could see becoming the norm one day but its currently too expensive and too complicated to use, there is also the issue of having an accident if the driver is unable to feel the operating conditions.
So back to current tractor suspension!.. Compared to cars and trucks tractor suspension is still relatively crude. This is because with the odd exception it has only really been available for the last twenty years, basically because the market wasn't prepared to pay for it. I think times are changing and customers more willing to pay for improved comfort on tractors. I currently only offer upgrade kits for CNH tractors for a few reasons the first being There is 'a lot' of work in developing a kit that actually works better than the standard set up and my background is in this brand so I know the products which is helpful when I'm offering advise on fitting a kit over the phone. Secondly many other brands offer two levels of suspension which CNH have chosen not to do, but the market is there as many of my kits are going straight on to brand new tractors in the dealers.
One point that is worth considering that people never stop to think of is suspension is a wearing component, so just to compare it to a car. with an average car speed of 36mph a car will travel 36000 miles in 1000hrs. If we take that equation back to the tractor 3000hrs is 108000 miles if that mileage was off road you would defiantly be thinking of changing the suspension! This wear applies to all springs, shocks, airbags, rubber mounts and hydraulic accumulators on all brands but suspension rarely seams to get serviced. I spend a lot of my time on the phone now talking about suspension and often someone has driven a new tractor of a different brand and compared it with something else with 10,000 hrs on the clock before coming to the conclusion that its the brand that has made all the difference! The CNH suspension isn't the best on the market but if its in full working order its O.K and a lot better than no suspension. My upgrade kits are very reasonably priced and the feedback I get is very good and brings it up with most of the competition. So to answer your question @Hillside if you want to give me a no obligation call I'm sure I can find a way of improving the ride in your tractor.
www.superglidesuspension.com
I have learnt a lot over the last couple of years on the development of tractor suspension but what will come of a surprise to many, is that very little is developed by the manufactures, it is done by specialist independent company's. These companies patent innovations which mean competing companies have to find different solutions to the same problem sometimes with compromised or sometimes better results which is where you find slight differences between brands at times. I have been fortunate enough to see some of the technology that is available as well as test prototypes for many brands of tractors. What manufactures end up using is a balance of cost, reliability and performance.
The top end of the Suspension development current sits at fully active suspension, this technology uses a special camera to read the bump in front of wheel, a hydraulic ram then lifts the wheel over the bump at exactly the correct distance and velocity for chassis to not react to the bump at all! We could see becoming the norm one day but its currently too expensive and too complicated to use, there is also the issue of having an accident if the driver is unable to feel the operating conditions.
So back to current tractor suspension!.. Compared to cars and trucks tractor suspension is still relatively crude. This is because with the odd exception it has only really been available for the last twenty years, basically because the market wasn't prepared to pay for it. I think times are changing and customers more willing to pay for improved comfort on tractors. I currently only offer upgrade kits for CNH tractors for a few reasons the first being There is 'a lot' of work in developing a kit that actually works better than the standard set up and my background is in this brand so I know the products which is helpful when I'm offering advise on fitting a kit over the phone. Secondly many other brands offer two levels of suspension which CNH have chosen not to do, but the market is there as many of my kits are going straight on to brand new tractors in the dealers.
One point that is worth considering that people never stop to think of is suspension is a wearing component, so just to compare it to a car. with an average car speed of 36mph a car will travel 36000 miles in 1000hrs. If we take that equation back to the tractor 3000hrs is 108000 miles if that mileage was off road you would defiantly be thinking of changing the suspension! This wear applies to all springs, shocks, airbags, rubber mounts and hydraulic accumulators on all brands but suspension rarely seams to get serviced. I spend a lot of my time on the phone now talking about suspension and often someone has driven a new tractor of a different brand and compared it with something else with 10,000 hrs on the clock before coming to the conclusion that its the brand that has made all the difference! The CNH suspension isn't the best on the market but if its in full working order its O.K and a lot better than no suspension. My upgrade kits are very reasonably priced and the feedback I get is very good and brings it up with most of the competition. So to answer your question @Hillside if you want to give me a no obligation call I'm sure I can find a way of improving the ride in your tractor.
www.superglidesuspension.com
Kyllä, muistat oikein! Still twin vents either side of the front console. And if you're in a real hurry, you can spec' a heated front windscreen.
ColinV6
Member
So these are now fittable by CNH dealerships??
Yes most of them!
Finn farmer
Member
On muuten outoa lukea Suomea Britti foorumilla.
Too bad we don't get along with our Valtra dealer.
The N series are a better ride than the T series as well.
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- Le Veurde, Allier, France 03320
They must be very comfortable then!