Tractor drivers wage

[Scholsey]

@Scholsey i completely agree with you, happy to EARN a good wage, however employers that think £12/h is a good wage that keeps up with modern day cost of living ................

Then make sure you have all your tickets/qualifications to further yourself and if hourly rate still isnt high enough go and work somewhere else. Job stability is worth more than a couple of extra £ a hour. How many people work for 15-20/hour but on zero hours contracts or short term contracts which are worthless as far as mortgage companies go? the next 50 years is going to be a huge shake up with respect to jobs etc, i think it will be vital to make sure your the one installing/servicing/programming the robots/drones and not the one being replaced by them!

 

[Jetemp]

I don't care where they live.

At my most skint I lived in the crummiest flat in the local town, working seven days a week in a pub. That kept things ticking over until a better job appeared. Working in a pub wouldn't pay a mortgage, either - is that the landlord's fault? Or is it my fault for having a crappy job and still expecting to buy something for hundreds of thousands of pounds?

Some are happy earning little but enjoying their job. Fine.
Some prefer to rough it for a while in order to advance to higher wage. That's fine, too.

You can't do a lad's job and expect an dad's wage.

@smcapstick I completely agree with you about different levels of staff and different levels of pay no issue with that. British agriculture is going to tie itself in knots in the not too distance future imho. It’s ok starting young lads on low wages, however they have to have some progression as they take on more responsibility, this is where the issue start to happen. I don’t know what’s it’s like in your area but there are next to no young lads interested in farming, the majority have realized that they can earn as much working 40-50 hours in other industries as they can working 80-100 hours in agriculture.

Just as an example weighbridge operator locally working 4 on 4 off 12 hour shifts mix of days and nights earning 45k a year. All they have to do is write the registration number on the ticket and print the weight out.

 

[smcapstick]

@Scholsey i completely agree with you, happy to EARN a good wage, however employers that think £12/h is a good wage that keeps up with modern day cost of living ................

If £12 per hour isn't enough, do something else.

Nobody is making you drive tractors.

 

[Beowulf]

If £12 per hour isn't enough, do something else.

Nobody is making you drive tractors.

Equally, if the price of grain/beef/potatoes etc isn't enough, do something else.

Nobody is making you farm.

But of course that would be crass and condescending, if someone suggested that to a farmer.

 

[smcapstick]

Equally, if the price of grain/beef/potatoes etc isn't enough, do something else.

Nobody is making you farm.

But of course that would be crass and condescending, if someone suggested that to a farmer.

100%

I was talking to a farming mate of mine the other day. He was full of woe, grumbling about being up early every day... making no money... weather too cold... blah blah blah. I suggested he sold up and went to do something else.

'Oh! No! I can't do that! Things maybe are not quite as bad as all that...'

 

[Jetemp]

@smcapstick i don’t need to give up tractor driving, I enjoy my job and I’m paid a salary that is at a level which renumerates at a level I am happy with considering my 20+ years experience and extensive range of relevant qualifications!

I am however talking from an employees perspective where as you are talking from a employers perspective. Two completely different stand points!

James

 

[smcapstick]

@smcapstick i don’t need to give up tractor driving, I enjoy my job and I’m paid a salary that is at a level which renumerates at a level I am happy with considering my 20+ years experience and extensive range of relevant qualifications!

I am however talking from an employees perspective where as you are talking from a employers perspective. Two completely different stand points!

James

Sorry, I meant 'you' as in the person stuck on £12/hour that is struggling to pay the mortgage, not you specifically. My bad!

 

[Traffic dodger]

Regardless of what ever trade/job it is people can get stuck in a rut. If you live in a particular area where job variation or decent wages is poor, the option of moving might not be on because kids at school/exams etc the other half has their job. It’s all a lot easier when single and no fixed address. The other thing is as you get older technology leaves you behind and you may find it difficult to retrain in today’s world. It’s not just tractor drivers.

 

[ollandroverman]

@ollandroverman and the employer will get what he pays for. Surely he wants someone who comes to work cares about what he/She does and who is conciencous? I reckon that it’s a two way thing respect your employee and they will respect the employer.

Tbh there no wonder that there has been posts on here recently a about staff who wont work weekends etc.

That does not necessarily follow.
If any member of staff was uncaring about their work, and failed to be conscientious, the length of their employment would be far shorter. ( at the very least with me, at any rate.) Why would any employer tolerate uncaring and disinterested staff, regardless of how much they are paid.
Some of the most expensive staff i have employed were the most overconfident in their own abilities ( which in turn lead to making mistakes), least conscientious, and least interested in earning their keep for their employer.

 

[holywell farmer]

Sorry, I meant 'you' as in the person stuck on £12/hour that is struggling to pay the mortgage, not you specifically. My bad!

I be glad to get 12 an hour !

 

[Kathy the lamb]

Just out of interest what would it be for a women’s wage ??

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

Just out of interest what would it be for a women’s wage ??

should be the same if doing the same job

 

[smcapstick]

Just out of interest what would it be for a women’s wage ??

That depends on two factors.

 

[Sackofnuts]

Did you get the jobs @holywell farmer ?

 

[Fendt]

Last year we had to find a new member of staff quite quickly. Interviewed several people and the one who stood out had a folder full of certificates, would work all hours, and wanted £12 an hour. Turned out he couldn't do most of the things he had a certificate for to any level of satisfaction, and was quite happy wasting time so he could put a few more hours on his time sheet each week.
We've now got a young lad fresh out of college with a little experience and a lot of enthusiasm. He's happy working for minimum wage to get more experience and he's good at what he does. He will progress quickly and will get a decent pay rise every year because he's worth investing time and money in.

 

[smcapstick]

Last year we had to find a new member of staff quite quickly. Interviewed several people and the one who stood out had a folder full of certificates, would work all hours, and wanted £12 an hour. Turned out he couldn't do most of the things he had a certificate for to any level of satisfaction, and was quite happy wasting time so he could put a few more hours on his time sheet each week.
We've now got a young lad fresh out of college with a little experience and a lot of enthusiasm. He's happy working for minimum wage to get more experience and he's good at what he does. He will progress quickly and will get a decent pay rise every year because he's worth investing time and money in.

...is the right answer.

 

[E_B]

Then make sure you have all your tickets/qualifications to further yourself and if hourly rate still isnt high enough go and work somewhere else. Job stability is worth more than a couple of extra £ a hour. How many people work for 15-20/hour but on zero hours contracts or short term contracts which are worthless as far as mortgage companies go? the next 50 years is going to be a huge shake up with respect to jobs etc, i think it will be vital to make sure your the one installing/servicing/programming the robots/drones and not the one being replaced by them!

Spot on, although more like the next 10-20 years. Supply and demand is not in the favour of tractor operators. A dwindling demand in light of increased 'economies' and automation, plus a decent supply of adequately but not overly skilled people who want to do it, especially on the younger side of the age range. Those who combine mechanical and technological skills to a high standard are the ones who can command a decent wage. Less of the case with livestock due to less supply of willing labour, a skilled herdsman who can run and maintain a bunch of milking robots will be able to demand a hefty salary, quite rightfully.

 

[ollie989898]

Dont like driving tractors? Go driving quarry plant instead. £16/hr minimum once qualified and same hours rain or shine.

 

[smcapstick]

Dont like driving tractors? Go driving quarry plant instead. £16/hr minimum once qualified and same hours rain or shine.

...apart from the first hour of every day - safety talk

 

[Scholsey]

...apart from the first hour of every day - safety talk

and you have builders/roadgangs/civil works guys all going for the same job wanting a easier life.

If someone wants a big wage then learn and master a trade, wanting £15/hour to chase a forager around a AD maize field with a trailer or sit on a bedtiller doing 1kph is a long way from a trade.