Tractor, rear discharge and telehandler charges?

Mad For Muck

Member
Location
Midlands
Doesn't it all depend on how many loads an hour each spreader can do ? 15 ton spreaders take some loading with a telehandler especially approximately 1 hour into the job when it can't find grip on the midden bottom, so could be easily down to 4 or 3 loads each per hour....

Not really as there's too many variables which will affect how many loads they'll do an hour, we give the farmer what option they want them loaded by & that's that. There's always a guy on the loader keeping the heap tidy so you can get grip, but on fym spreading in the same field as the heap loading with a telehandler they usually do about 100-120t/hour
 

Tim1989

Member
Location
Dorset
we are charging-
£45hr for 240hp with 12cu
£50hr for 300+hp with 12-14cu
£120 per day for tele driven by the above drivers
or £34hr with driver
all plus fuel & travel time
this is at the upper limit of what people are prepared to pay in this area but it cant be done cheaper without loosing money or just covering costs.

Why would a bigger tractor cost more with the same size spreader?
 

DRC

Member
£35/hr per tractor and bunning spreader, contractors fuel. Usually get two in, and i load with the manitou.
Can get a lot done in a day, although i feel knackered if it's been a long day. Time is money, so even though i understand the argument for owning your own, i don't want to be spending days muckspreading on my own.
 

mojo4900

Member
Location
YO61
Not really as there's too many variables which will affect how many loads they'll do an hour, we give the farmer what option they want them loaded by & that's that. There's always a guy on the loader keeping the heap tidy so you can get grip, but on fym spreading in the same field as the heap loading with a telehandler they usually do about 100-120t/hour
We use two JD 7710 / Bunning mk4 120's ( flared sides so approx 15 cube?) and JCB 412S with hawk fork or biggest bucket it will safely handle. Best we've ever done was 22 loads an hour for 3 hours flat, and it was flat back for everyone. Muck had been through straw blower so was easily shredded. It was after stubble turnips so loading was very good to firm. After 3 hours we got too far from the heap so output dropped, but I strongly believe it represented good value for money at £150/ hour. If conditions are moderate, i.e. Spreaders are taking longer than what can be classed as normal to be loaded I have been known to reduce the price per hour. A lot depends on the amount of thought that goes into how and where the muck is tipped, thus making it easier to load. So basically it's horses for courses.
 

R tea

Member
We use two JD 7710 / Bunning mk4 120's ( flared sides so approx 15 cube?) and JCB 412S with hawk fork or biggest bucket it will safely handle. Best we've ever done was 22 loads an hour for 3 hours flat, and it was flat back for everyone. Muck had been through straw blower so was easily shredded. It was after stubble turnips so loading was very good to firm. After 3 hours we got too far from the heap so output dropped, but I strongly believe it represented good value for money at £150/ hour. If conditions are moderate, i.e. Spreaders are taking longer than what can be classed as normal to be loaded I have been known to reduce the price per hour. A lot depends on the amount of thought that goes into how and where the muck is tipped, thus making it easier to load. So basically it's horses for courses.
So the man who makes it easy and heaps it in the field that's to be spread gets a bigger rate than the man who tips it anywhere just off the road meaning you have to cross fields to spread??
 

mojo4900

Member
Location
YO61
So the man who makes it easy and heaps it in the field that's to be spread gets a bigger rate than the man who tips it anywhere just off the road meaning you have to cross fields to spread??
Well put but no, he just gets it done in less time thus less cost. The pillock that tips it somewhere near Satan's ring piece gets charged all he deserves imo unless it's a genuine case of me thinking we arnt getting on as fast I would expect the job to be done. It has to be an equal amount of win win for both parties.
 

james ds

Member
Location
leinster
I can't understand how you can pay for a spreader and tractor at £30/ hr , I charge €120 / hr for a 10 t k2 and a big loader with it , gets through a lot of work , the prices on here are stupid , it's a race to the bottom , charging a price because somebody else is charging the same low price . If you charge more lose the odd job so what at least make money.
 

mojo4900

Member
Location
YO61
I can't understand how you can pay for a spreader and tractor at £30/ hr , I charge €120 / hr for a 10 t k2 and a big loader with it , gets through a lot of work , the prices on here are stupid , it's a race to the bottom , charging a price because somebody else is charging the same low price . If you charge more lose the odd job so what at least make money.
A lot of the people on here quoting are operating in mixed or livestock area's. Muck around here obviously comes from stock farms but is spread on arable land in a short working window of about 4 weeks in the autumn and maybe a 6 to 8 campaign in the spring depend on weather and cropping, time is short, timing critical ( N loss etc) so our machinery must earn a decent rate to be viable. When fuel got to the dizzy heights of over 60 p / litre I charged £160/ hour. No one complained either.
 

DGC1

Member
Location
Scotland
Why would a bigger tractor cost more with the same size spreader?

simple! more power = more output, as long as the spreader can take it and the driver capable of pushing the extra output.
we have proven time and time again that 390hp vs 240hp on various different machines gets through the work a lot faster and uses less fuel per ton / pr acre so hence why we charge a fair increase in rate as farmer is getting more done.
 

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