Tractor remap or chip what's the difference

[Mccormick135]

Hi guys wanting to get my mccormick mc135 2009 chipped or remapped and was wondering if it was safe, does it need to be taken to a professional to be turned or can I just buy a chip which plugs straight in
Cheers George

 

[TripleSix]

Hi George.

This thread contains some relevant info for you.

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/more-power-less-fuel.177588/


That Perkins is a gutless pig though, should be able to remap it to 150+ hp which will be a great improvement.

 

[Mccormick135]

Hi George.

This thread contains some relevant info for you.

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/more-power-less-fuel.177588/


That Perkins is a gutless pig though, should be able to remap it to 150+ hp which will be a great improvement.

See the problem I have is I believe it is an iveco engine as it is one of the later models and the engine is still gutless, I don't think the chip would be The same and I don't have a clue about tuning or where to get it done or where to look

 

[TripleSix]

I didn't realise they'd changed engines later on.

If it is the Iveco/Cummins unit, is it not mechanical injection?

 

[Mccormick135]

Yes it's the iveco one but it is still mechanical fuel injection one of the last ones before they changed to electronic, does this still make it possible to remap

 

[Timbo]

No. Simple screwdriver / spanner tune.

 

[Mccormick135]

Do you need a specialist yo get the mixture right then, surely it will just poor out black smoke

 

[TripleSix]

Do you need a specialist yo get the mixture right then, surely it will just poor out black smoke

It will only smoke excessively if you turn it up too much.

Screw the fuel screw on the back of the pump in a quarter turn.

That should do you.

 

[Mccormick135]

Sorry for all the questions but surely the air fuel mixture would be wrong, as you have put more fuel in does this mean the air will just go in faster as you turn the screw, would this destroy economy? And how much more power do you think I would get
Cheers George

 

[Timbo]

Do as triple6.says.. if you're not sure what to turn or not confident , leave well alone.

 

[TripleSix]

Sorry for all the questions but surely the air fuel mixture would be wrong, as you have put more fuel in does this mean the air will just go in faster as you turn the screw, would this destroy economy? And how much more power do you think I would get
Cheers George

Air fuel ratio on a diesel engine is not the same issue as a petrol engine.

You cannot go ''lean" on a diesel.
Rich isn't too rich until you get to a point where you are inputting far too much fuel and have a crazy amount of black smoke, this can be a detriment to power produced.


On a diesel engine more fuel = more power AND more heat.

You'll struggle to increase economy if you increase the power.
It's possible economy may stay the same due to not having to rev the engine as much to do the same work.


If you want economy go and buy a VW Lupo.

 

[davidroberts30]

Sorry for all the questions but surely the air fuel mixture would be wrong, as you have put more fuel in does this mean the air will just go in faster as you turn the screw, would this destroy economy? And how much more power do you think I would get
Cheers George

If its turboed then the turbo will run faster as more diesel is burned therefore introducing more air

 

[General-Lee]

Can you have too much black smoke?!

Our old mx110 had a tweak or 2.

 

[jondear]

Can you have too much black smoke?!

Our old mx110 had a tweak or 2.

Yes impeads visibility!

 

[davidroberts30]

Yes impeads visibility!

Longer pipe

 

[Mccormick135]

Air fuel ratio on a diesel engine is not the same issue as a petrol engine.

You cannot go ''lean" on a diesel.
Rich isn't too rich until you get to a point where you are inputting far too much fuel and have a crazy amount of black smoke, this can be a detriment to power produced.


On a diesel engine more fuel = more power AND more heat.

You'll struggle to increase economy if you increase the power.
It's possible economy may stay the same due to not having to rev the engine as much to do the same work.


If you want economy go and buy a VW Lupo.

I knew that adding more power would introduce more heat and was also considering a new exhaust to allow everything to flow more quickly which should reduce heat and Maybe pressure which would help the turbo to spool a bit faster?

 

[General-Lee]

I knew that adding more power would introduce more heat and was also considering a new exhaust to allow everything to flow more quickly which should reduce heat and Maybe pressure which would help the turbo to spool a bit faster?

Go faster white stripe on the bonnet too?

 

[Mccormick135]

Go faster white stripe on the bonnet too?

Yes the go faster stripe will add at least 15hp

 

[Mccormick135]

Would the reliability still be good, I’m not going to go round everywhere flat out trying to kill the engine, but the temputure gauge always goes above half when working hard anyway although it is still well in the green I thought they should always stay at half way up the needle

 

[tomlad]

Guy who chipped a mates n h
Stated it has to be on a dyno to alter anything to balance it all correctly .
He plugged in a box of tricks - more power

Remap meens start blank slate as new
If any problems ur in a mess

Plug in chip unplugs ..
Only what the man said who charged the money modern nh t7 loads of electrics
He arrived trailed dyno