Tractor sales table

[cfr1964]

I own one that was replaced, my brother in law the same. Is that enough owner testimony for you

How do you feel you were treated?
Do you think Fendt would be better fitting another make of engine?

 

[Wiking]

I believe all tractors will have faults at some point, we've had the regular head gasket issues on 30 series Deeres and an autopower failure on a 6920S and some minor faults. Apart from that I think they're a nice place to spend the day in and reliable tractors, they've held their value good and my Deere dealer is superb.

 

[james ds]

How do you feel you were treated?
Do you think Fendt would be better fitting another make of engine?

They have started using sisu in the small tractors and I'd say eventually they will be all sisu.

 

[hally]

How do you feel you were treated?
Do you think Fendt would be better fitting another make of engine?

We were treated well,it was out of warranty but no cost was passed To us which is the main thing. Problem is they fit the deutz because of it's economy which is a major selling point for fendt so if they change to anything else and lose the economy you might as well buy something cheaper as all makes offer vario etc.
It will depend on your dealer I suppose. We always bought from a dealer an hour and a half away and always got great service and backup and a keen price but now we are pushed towards the "local" dealer who we have never had a great relationship with. This is the reason after years of fendt we are going back to JD this time.

 

[hintonroadhero]

Your 100% right , I refuse to buy a machine with a crap engine .

Considering that Deutz have built around 9 million engines in their history, there must be a lot of idiots out there who buy them.
Currently they are building around 100,000 plus engines per year against Sisu's production of around 30,000.
As to AGCO switching exclusively to Sisu?.......don't discount the voice of the German customers who want a German tractor with a German engine... otherwise they would have made the switch years ago

 

[Jim B]

not sure post brexet, probably 86 to 90 for 716 for base spec, but the value will hold a lot better than kubuta. 5 years will see most brands half in value

Kubuta, will do ok for a few years, its only when farmers start trading them back in 3 to 5 years time, the value of them, wont seem so attractive

Sounds like someone has had the "residual value" sales spiel from a Fendt salesman. I think you bought a 716 pre Brexit, how much was that and what spec was it? Lets say for arguments sake the Fendt post Brexit is 100k and the Kubota 70k. What's the Fendt going to be worth in 5 years with 5,000 hours? If, as you say most brands half in 5 years, the Kubota will be worth 35k. Will the Fendt be worth more than 65k? Thats near enough the price of a new tractor from another brand (like Kubota!) with warranty and finance...

I see no reason for Kubota tractors to depreciate any more than any other brand. Look at the rest of their product portfolio, the residual values are some of the strongest on the market, why will the tractors be any different if liked by operators and prove to be reliable?

 

[sexy lexy]

The market shares make interesting reading, the mf sales are not clever, which I wouldn't blame on product more the fact the people in charge of their dealer network have made some regrettable dealer changes which clearly haven't worked.

 

[icanshootwell]

Sounds like someone has had the "residual value" sales spiel from a Fendt salesman. I think you bought a 716 pre Brexit, how much was that and what spec was it? Lets say for arguments sake the Fendt post Brexit is 100k and the Kubota 70k. What's the Fendt going to be worth in 5 years with 5,000 hours? If, as you say most brands half in 5 years, the Kubota will be worth 35k. Will the Fendt be worth more than 65k? Thats near enough the price of a new tractor from another brand (like Kubota!) with warranty and finance...

I see no reason for Kubota tractors to depreciate any more than any other brand. Look at the rest of their product portfolio, the residual values are some of the strongest on the market, why will the tractors be any different if liked by operators and prove to be reliable?

I feel i have to apologize for driving a fendt, so why is jd the no 1 seller. They are more money than kubuta & spec for spec more or less the same as fendt, valtra, we all make choices, once you stepped up, it will cost you the same when you change . Thankfully i have no kubuta dealership near me, only mf, fendt, new holland, Nice to stay local

 

[Jim B]

I feel i have to apologize for driving a fendt, so why is jd the no 1 seller. They are more money than kubuta & spec for spec more or less the same as fendt, valtra, we all make choices, once you stepped up, it will cost you the same when you change . Thankfully i have no kubuta dealership near me, only mf, fendt, new holland, Nice to stay local

Stepped up, meaning you have made a big initial outlay and are tying up more money? The point is I don't think Fendt hold their money better than anything else as the reps, or you claim.

 

[icanshootwell]

Stepped up, meaning you have made a big initial outlay and are tying up more money? The point is I don't think Fendt hold their money better than anything else as the reps, or you claim.

You give parris tractors a call, they sell plenty of high end kit, 2 & 3 year old tractors with 2000 hrs on, for not much less than new money eg, last year he had a 516 on a 13 plate with 2000 hrs, 66 he wanted, 76 new, There stock is always well kept, very tidy, You dont have any problem selling a well looked after tractor

 

[Jim B]

You give parris tractors a call, they sell plenty of high end kit, 2 & 3 year old tractors with 2000 hrs on, for not much less than new money eg, last year he had a 516 on a 13 plate with 2000 hrs, 66 he wanted, 76 new, There stock is always well kept, very tidy, You dont have any problem selling a well looked after tractor

I thought we were talking about Fendt and depreciation vs other brands, not what Richard Parris stocks?

 

[hintonroadhero]

You give parris tractors a call, they sell plenty of high end kit, 2 & 3 year old tractors with 2000 hrs on, for not much less than new money eg, last year he had a 516 on a 13 plate with 2000 hrs, 66 he wanted, 76 new, There stock is always well kept, very tidy, You dont have any problem selling a well looked after tractor

Normally quite a difference between wanted and got !!!

 

[Cowabunga]

Normally quite a difference between wanted and got !!!

There's also the little issue of the unknown price he actually paid the customer for it. If through the trade, then how much less did the supplier pay the original owner for it, considering there are then two margins to cover?

 

[holywell farmer]

I am surprised at Massey ferguson poor sales they seem to have good range of tractors at the moment

 

[icanshootwell]

I thought we were talking about Fendt and depreciation vs other brands, not what Richard Parris stocks?

The point i was trying to make was, a 3 year old fendt is still worth strong money, cause there is a demand for them, how much demand would there be for a 3 year old kubuta with vario 3000 hrs, 30 to 40 k if your lucky, thats a big drop from your 70k, I expect the farmers who end up buying them, will end up keeping them 10 years for that reason

 

[yorkie]

The point i was trying to make was, a 3 year old fendt is still worth strong money, cause there is a demand for them, how much demand would there be for a 3 year old kubuta with vario 3000 hrs, 30 to 40 k if your lucky, thats a big drop from your 70k, I expect the farmers who end up buying them, will end up keeping them 10 years for that reason

big fendts are selling that well second,this is a fact not fiction when neighbour came to change his with dealer he has always dealt with told him to sell it private as they didn't want it as they couldn't sell them,same response from 2 more dealers

 

[turbo]

big fendts are selling that well second,this is a fact not fiction when neighbour came to change his with dealer he has always dealt with told him to sell it private as they didn't want it as they couldn't sell them,same response from 2 more dealers

Just look at all the fendt dealers website they have got plenty at strong money but they are there for a long time.

 

[Yazzie]

At a recent retirement sale 2 kubota m9540s with loaders, 59 reg with 6000 ish hours made £12500 and the other 62 reg 3500 hours made £15400. Both were tidy.Would I be near the mark thinking the 59 reg would have cost roughly £25000 so at 7 years old made close to 50 % of its purchase price.is that inline with other makes of similar size or worse.

 

[icanshootwell]

big fendts are selling that well second,this is a fact not fiction when neighbour came to change his with dealer he has always dealt with told him to sell it private as they didn't want it as they couldn't sell them,same response from 2 more dealers

There is always less demand for the big high hp tractors , but the 500 700 range would attract more potential buyers, i would imagine most large hp tractors would be exported, and thats not to flash at present, thats why they will hang around in dealers yards till it picks up

 

[icanshootwell]

At a recent retirement sale 2 kubota m9540s with loaders, 59 reg with 6000 ish hours made £12500 and the other 62 reg 3500 hours made £15400. Both were tidy.Would I be near the mark thinking the 59 reg would have cost roughly £25000 so at 7 years old made close to 50 % of its purchase price.is that inline with other makes of similar size or worse.

I paid 10 k for a ten year old CASE1056, back in 1996, new 16 to 18k