Trailed forage harvesters

[mengeleguru]

Poetry in motion a new lely storm 300 profi c/w metal detector on a John Deere 6630 no problem.

1 of 6 supplied this season. & 1 more on Tuesday

 

[Rob Graham]

On the braes

 

[Wellytrack]

Put that in yer pipe SISU and Deutz

 

[james ds]

Put that in yer pipe SISU and Deutz

Having looked at that proves why trailed harvestors are nearly extinct. , 4 tractors with men sitting on them , a harvestors crawling down the field blowing a lot of grass out onto the ground. Probably the least efficient way ever to cut silage.

 

[Thomas5060]

Having looked at that proves why trailed harvestors are nearly extinct. , 4 tractors with men sitting on them , a harvestors crawling down the field blowing a lot of grass out onto the ground. Probably the least efficient way ever to cut silage.

You don’t know the circumstances. Maybe there was a blockage and that’s why the trailers are all sitting? Maybe it’s just after tea?
I’ve seen Self propelled drivers blow plenty onto the ground, I’ve also seen wagon men put too much on and have it fall out of the wagon onto the ground and onto roads.

 

[michael N123]

You don’t know the circumstances. Maybe there was a blockage and that’s why the trailers are all sitting? Maybe it’s just after tea?
I’ve seen Self propelled drivers blow plenty onto the ground, I’ve also seen wagon men put too much on and have it fall out of the wagon onto the ground and onto roads.

Our mex 6 keeps 3 trailers going all day and there’s no long draws

If we went any faster we’d need another tractor on the pit or a silly big shovel to be honest

 

[Wellytrack]

Having looked at that proves why trailed harvestors are nearly extinct. , 4 tractors with men sitting on them , a harvestors crawling down the field blowing a lot of grass out onto the ground. Probably the least efficient way ever to cut silage.

Well surprised I am not.

People certainly see different things, I see a Perkins 1006 that’s had its bean flicked (rated around 105hp when new) in a 20 year old tractor giving a 20 foot row the beans lifting as much grass as £140k’s worth of tractor and wagon that will lose about 50k over 5 years.

 

[it's not over]

Having looked at that proves why trailed harvestors are nearly extinct. , 4 tractors with men sitting on them , a harvestors crawling down the field blowing a lot of grass out onto the ground. Probably the least efficient way ever to cut silage.

Did you ever hear the story about the hare and the tortoise

 

[Suckndiesel]

Did you ever hear the story about the hare and the tortoise

I’d imagine a wagon would be a bit tortoisey lifting our grass, too many long draws!

 

[fermerboy]

Put that in yer pipe SISU and Deutz

Shes going ok for the power hd had on the front, we cant all have 200hp tractors.
Would lose a lot less grass if he'd been blowing the right way over the pick up, spout is practically in the trailer then.

As for our wagon loving friend, plenty of trailed foragers round here, i reckon that my whole silaging outfit probably cost a lot less than one of his wagons, can do 30 acre of heavy wirey one cut cow silade in a 9am to 8pm day with an hour out for food.
Only got 120-130ac to do so 4 days odd.
We have a good sized pit and plenty room but it still needs to be pushed in and tramped, and my dad whos in his seventies can handle that sort of output with a 526 loadall no bother.
Faster is ok but theres a whole load of other factors that need to be thought about.
Horses for courses, if I was a contractor then 30 odd acre a day wouldnt be enough output.

Personally I actually like the idea of the wagon for its labour saving alone, but having buckraked wagon grass from two different outfits, i now know why you need massively heavy loaders on the pit, to give you half a chance of compacting the fluffy springy stuff.
Not for me.

 

[Blue.]

Put that in yer pipe SISU and Deutz

That is going well!

A glorified 185 with a 6pot.

 

[james ds]

Shes going ok for the power hd had on the front, we cant all have 200hp tractors.
Would lose a lot less grass if he'd been blowing the right way over the pick up, spout is practically in the trailer then.

As for our wagon loving friend, plenty of trailed foragers round here, i reckon that my whole silaging outfit probably cost a lot less than one of his wagons, can do 30 acre of heavy wirey one cut cow silade in a 9am to 8pm day with an hour out for food.
Only got 120-130ac to do so 4 days odd.
We have a good sized pit and plenty room but it still needs to be pushed in and tramped, and my dad whos in his seventies can handle that sort of output with a 526 loadall no bother.
Faster is ok but theres a whole load of other factors that need to be thought about.
Horses for courses, if I was a contractor then 30 odd acre a day wouldnt be enough output.

Personally I actually like the idea of the wagon for its labour saving alone, but having buckraked wagon grass from two different outfits, i now know why you need massively heavy loaders on the pit, to give you half a chance of compacting the fluffy springy stuff.
Not for me.

If you have a bigger wagon with plenty of sharp knives it will chop not much differant than a sp harvestor set on its longest chop. I have taken out every third knife because it was chopping too short. A wagon with all knives in sharp you would have no problem pushing it up.

 

[Wellytrack]

Shes going ok for the power hd had on the front, we cant all have 200hp tractors.
Would lose a lot less grass if he'd been blowing the right way over the pick up, spout is practically in the trailer then.

As for our wagon loving friend, plenty of trailed foragers round here, i reckon that my whole silaging outfit probably cost a lot less than one of his wagons, can do 30 acre of heavy wirey one cut cow silade in a 9am to 8pm day with an hour out for food.
Only got 120-130ac to do so 4 days odd.
We have a good sized pit and plenty room but it still needs to be pushed in and tramped, and my dad whos in his seventies can handle that sort of output with a 526 loadall no bother.
Faster is ok but theres a whole load of other factors that need to be thought about.
Horses for courses, if I was a contractor then 30 odd acre a day wouldnt be enough output.

Personally I actually like the idea of the wagon for its labour saving alone, but having buckraked wagon grass from two different outfits, i now know why you need massively heavy loaders on the pit, to give you half a chance of compacting the fluffy springy stuff.
Not for me.

Every system has its bottleneck, too often people assume it’s the forager but in reality it’s either the buckrake or the
pit.

The sweet spot in a system is usually a gear less than you think it is

 

[ollie989898]

Second hand self propelled with one of the smaller engines and a good team will slip through a day of silage very readily without over-loading the carting team or pit man.

 

[Martin Holden]

Every system has its bottleneck, too often people assume it’s the forager but in reality it’s either the buckrake or the
pit.

The sweet spot in a system is usually a gear less than you think it is

You speak with common sense grasshopper! Many field operations would be more reliably done a gear less. I’d rather go a fraction slower than flat out and breakdown regularly and or wear the kit out that much faster. You only realise these things once you’ve taken a a machine apart and then re built it, so when you are driving it you appreciate the strain things can be under

 

[8100]

Awesome outfit that

 

[8100]

Just spotted this top bit of fettling.

 

[ollie989898]

Second hand choppers can be bought for reasonable money, a good man in a farm workshop or even paying a dealer to go through it in the winter isn't crazy money and with a reduced hourly workload each year they can tickle on for years, no need to work the guts out of them if you aren't doing thousands of acres either. Far quicker and easier than a tractor-chopper, assuming you have one big enough to run one and don't mind running it like the wind day after day.

 

[Wellytrack]

Second hand choppers can be bought for reasonable money, a good man in a farm workshop or even paying a dealer to go through it in the winter isn't crazy money and with a reduced hourly workload each year they can tickle on for years, no need to work the guts out of them if you aren't doing thousands of acres either. Far quicker and easier than a tractor-chopper, assuming you have one big enough to run one and don't mind running it like the wind day after day.

SH SP’s can be bought cheap yes, however a decent blowup and it’s parked for good.

There are farms coming back from old well used SP’s and hitching up to the 250- 300hp tractors they already have.

 

[hintonroadhero]

Poetry in motion a new lely storm 300 profi c/w metal detector on a John Deere 6630 no problem.

1 of 6 supplied this season. & 1 more on Tuesday

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Brings back so many memories....look at the blow compared to the JF... back in the eighties when I was at Reco we sold a number of machines into Lincolnshire for chopping straw after the burning ban. We developed a straw spreading hood for the spout to get out to 20 feet spread width back then. We had one customer who even took the spreader off a, fitted 10 blades and let rip...blasting chopped straw about eighty feet in the air !