Trailed vs Self Propelled Sprayer
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Yeh hurrel does
There is the option of a vf 620 which is direct from the Horsch book, it is a fantastic tyre for all year round use. Especially if the tractor is on 650s. You will want the pro plus boom if you are going to use the 25cm nozzle spacing. It is surprising just how much it does move. It even makes fields in the fens look uneven.
Feldspar
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- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
Thanks. Is that the tyre you have? What pressure can you run them at?
Interesting response on the extra boom control. Matt at Horsch said he didn't reckon they were worth it on the flatter parts of the country. I definitely want to spray as close to the ground as possible though (that's a big part of the attraction) so that would tip towards getting it.
Depends how close you want to get and how flat your fields are. If they are that flat and as Matt has seen it I would side with him.
Don’t own the sprayer, just try to sell them and in all the discussions I’ve had with various people, the Trent is moving towards one set of tyres all year and them being a 620.
I have never hidden the fact that I work for manns, just out of another depot.
Don’t own the sprayer, just try to sell them and in all the discussions I’ve had with various people, the Trent is moving towards one set of tyres all year and them being a 620.
I have never hidden the fact that I work for manns, just out of another depot.
- Location
- N.Yorkshire
Run ours on the Alliance 580/85r42 agriflex, can run them around 1.6bar.
Why go to the efficiency of a wider boom, then undo it with wide wheels by being to idle to change them twice a year?
Rowcrops here for spraying are 13.6r48 on the sprayer (24/4000 Chafer Guardian) 14.9r46&12.4r34 on the tractor.
At the moment, that tractor is planting spuds, so another is wearing the potato harvesting wheels - 16.9r46&14.9r30, which are wide enough to pull trailers, spread fert, spray, bale, plough, or almost anything else.
Rowcrops here for spraying are 13.6r48 on the sprayer (24/4000 Chafer Guardian) 14.9r46&12.4r34 on the tractor.
At the moment, that tractor is planting spuds, so another is wearing the potato harvesting wheels - 16.9r46&14.9r30, which are wide enough to pull trailers, spread fert, spray, bale, plough, or almost anything else.
- Location
- Darlington
I can put you in touch with an Estonian mate, actually he might be reading this. He's liking his.
He parked as he thought off the roads the other day but booms are a long way behind the wheels and were a danger to high sided vehicles
- Location
- N.Yorkshire
36m 6000l sprayer and when it’s full of liquid fert it’s over 23t total with tractor. Pulling 16-20t trailers in harvest and heavy subsoiler. row crops were worn out so thought we would try without. You don’t make as bad as ruts if you have a wet spring so can travel better and more days spraying then. Works okay so far,only time you notice is last pass in the wheat and beans turning at ends but less at 36m but not bad.
Feldspar
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- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
Yes, that would be great. Thanks.
Feldspar
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- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
I have a sore back and lower tyre pressures make a big difference to the ride on the tractor. No point having wider wheels on the tractor and skinnies on the sprayer. With an 8000l sprayer, you just cannot put that narrow tyres on if you want to run down the road at a sensible speed. Some years if you go wide to start with you damage that width of crop so that it never really recovered even if you switch to narrow wheels (which we do now). You just end up with stunted plants that put a lot of green in the sample at harvest time.
Feldspar
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Are they VF tyres? Looked to me like there was an Agriflex+ version of the 580s and 620s, but the catalogue I was reading said there were 'in development'. Michelin seem to have a poor range in this size bracket.
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- N.Yorkshire
They are only IF tyres, the website is good for working out pressures and load carrying.
We are on a 650 Michelin which was the widest we could go without restricting steering - tractors all on 710’s
They are a very new tyre (think ours were first uk delivered) and have stunning ability to carry weight at speed with very low pressure
Absolutely no regrets so far about using not running row crops, doing so ends up tying the tractor up on the sprayer full time so you might as well buy a self prop if doing that
I really don’t think they are running down much more than we used to with our Bateman on 480’s and on 36m vs 24m I doubt it will make any difference
If you’re thinking the 4ws will mean self prop single track turns with a trailed ? Apparently it won’t ! I investigated this route before we bought our gs60000
The length of the sprayer means the rear axle steering lock will never be enough. The best thing we did was widen the track width to 80" (2m). Greater stability and steering angle, though strictly speaking we're now over 2.5m on the road with 650 tyres which restricts travelling speed to 20mph under the Constriction & Use Regs.
- Location
- E Yorks
Tony Lancaster did one as did gmr more recently not sure about chafer. Others on herewill know better than me.