TRAILER TESTING & TRACTOR MOTS

Nigel Wellings

Member
Have recently got involved with Independent Ag Engineer who is putting together a trailer testing scheme for us that we will launch in the New Year. Following number of high profile accidents and prosecutions over last few years we have seen the likes of dealers and TILLY come up with their own schemes which have pros and cons. Some of the dealer costs seem high and with some Dealers not certain how much expertise there actually is in this department. Our Guy has many years experience with Agric and Commercial vehicle work and is particularly strong on brakes. He will be able to do any upgrade,repair, adjustment work required on the trailers.
Whilst considering the details of the trailer scheme I have started to wonder if we are missing a major part of the picture and should also be offering an annual tractor Safety check. This will give a certificate once per year to say that brakes,tyres,pick up hitch,lights,linkage etc have been checked and perform to a roadworthy safe standard. It would be a voluntary independent MOT that could be produced to VOSA,Insurers, Court of Law etc to prove the machine has been independently checked to be in a safe condition. It would not by any means be appropriate to all tractors but for high hour Users doing large amounts of roadwork, the independent verification could prove very useful in the event of a major accident. For the professional Contractor/large scale farm it could be a useful tool for management to prove machine safety if required. Have not worked out a cost for it yet, but am thinking along the lines of £100-£125/year/tractor.
One point I want to make clear is I am not proposing this as a money making venture (we will need to cover our costs) bur more as a service that helps improve safety and helps defend the farmer in the event of a serious accident.
Many people will say complete waste of time, just another piece of red tape that the cowboy element will ignore anyway and another cost. I disagree and feel if done correctly it shows a professional approach to machine management and safety and am certain in a court of law it could prove to be helpful.
Please let me know your views- Both good and bad!
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Thin end of the wedge, where will it end. Sorry but if you put your foot on the brakes and you nearly end up going through the front screen that's good enough for me. I dont need yet another scrap of paper with a signature on it.
Soon as you start, RT will be all over it and then we'll have yet another hoop to jump through.
This whole H&S nonsense is designed for people who have zero common sense and no mechanical ability of which 90% of farmers have plenty.
I'm sorry to be negative about it but those are my thoughts.
 
What about some instruction for the drivers whilst your at it,you have a little bit of instruction to get a hgv !!!but none to hitch up a trailer with a total weigh nearing 40tonnes perhaps start here first its not always the trailer at fault!!!!
 
You won’t cover the costs of a competent qualified technician at that cost, plus the administration of such a scheme at that cost unfortunately....and to be fair BAGMA ha e all of these checks already sorted , but the courses are quite expensive...you can look them up online. We charge £180 for a trailer test, but this includes a calibrated brake efficiency test. This means we have a paper trail all the way back that shows we have the specific equipment tested. Unfortunately, all of this costs money, and has to be paid for... in my opinion...
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
Surely those who aren't fussed would just carry on regardless so it wouldn't pick up the worst offenders. A bit like people not booking a Covid test as they don't want to be told to self isolate, so instead they carry on as normal and then pass it onto others.

I have my combine appraised each year at a cost of £250 including travelling and that seems good value to me to tell me what might be wrong. Any dealer call out in season would start at that cost almost regardless. Trouble is though it never stops there.....the report usually shows several thousand pounds worth of work that needs doing. If someone thought their tractor was dodgy, they don't need a test to confirm it......and they probably wouldn't want one either to be highlighting that it's unsafe and requiring them to undertake thousands of pounds of additional work as a result.

That said....I can get an MOT for a car from my local garage for £40 or so, and they'll even collect it from my house up to 8 miles away for £10 more. A full service is only £160. Seems great value compared to agriculture.
 

Little squeak

Member
Location
Lancashire
You won’t cover the costs of a competent qualified technician at that cost, plus the administration of such a scheme at that cost unfortunately....and to be fair BAGMA ha e all of these checks already sorted , but the courses are quite expensive...you can look them up online. We charge £180 for a trailer test, but this includes a calibrated brake efficiency test. This means we have a paper trail all the way back that shows we have the specific equipment tested. Unfortunately, all of this costs money, and has to be paid for... in my opinion...
Vosa charged me £90 with a further £40 plus VAT for the hire of the premises and facilities for my HGV truck for it's last MOT test. I'm not sure why you feel you need to charge £180 for a trailer. The HGV MOT covered emmisions as well as a rolling road brake test among everything else, and I really do mean everything else.
 
It’s scale I guess, travelling time, we have to pay for the certification of the trailer, basically 2-3 hours work , and rectify minor faults, it’s inline with competition for Sg, but my mate has wagon test bay and business, it’s booked up for weeks...economy of scale!
 

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
It’s scale I guess, travelling time, we have to pay for the certification of the trailer, basically 2-3 hours work , and rectify minor faults, it’s inline with competition for Sg, but my mate has wagon test bay and business, it’s booked up for weeks...economy of scale!
What does economies of scale mean ? charge as much as you think you can get away with ...
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
exactly thats why our trucks are inspected every 4 weeks not once a year every

Yes makes a big difference when someone actually services stuff.
When I was on milk tankers they were serviced every 15,000 K's, including a trip over the brake machine so every 2-3 weeks on average. Couldn't leave the yard with an ABS light on etc.
 

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