Trailered or self propelled sprayers

Foxcover

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For 150 acres at a time ??

Thats 60 ha - at 200l/ha= 12000 litres water
2000l tank = 6 tankfuls. That just doesn't justify a SP!
It does however merit a nice s/h 12m 2000l trailed - on that acreage even the argument for 24m boom is debatable on cost grounds.

Very few SP's in this part of France, but plenty of 24m trailed.

We should be helping the bloke not trying to create extra work for him by telling him to get something that will make the job twice as long!!
Also in France they don’t pass through the crop as many times as we do and probably have less catchy weather?
 

GrantMo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Moray
Similar situation to the OP here and went for a 24m 3000L trailed case sprayer which was bought for just over half your budget. Certainly wouldn't want any less capacity when I'm tramping about at 4.30 am to get a load done before work! 12m mounted sprayer might be ok if you had all week to p*ss about doing it but when you're trying to juggle a job too you just want to get it done out the way.
If you've a decent tractor to stick on the front I think that would be a much better place to spend time than an old self propelled.
Steering/tracking drawbar a must though especially if you have any hills/sidelands
 

Boysground

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Wiltshire
Similar situation to the OP here and went for a 24m 3000L trailed case sprayer which was bought for just over half your budget. Certainly wouldn't want any less capacity when I'm tramping about at 4.30 am to get a load done before work! 12m mounted sprayer might be ok if you had all week to p*ss about doing it but when you're trying to juggle a job too you just want to get it done out the way.
If you've a decent tractor to stick on the front I think that would be a much better place to spend time than an old self propelled.
Steering/tracking drawbar a must though especially if you have any hills/sidelands

I have a neighbour who would do a similar amount of spraying to me. He is very happy with his old but fully working Bateman. Saw him with it back along I came thinking that I would rather spend a day sat on my tractor with the sprayer behind me. Much more comfortable in the tractor.

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Oldmacdonald

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Scotland
I always sound bitter when I say this but people on here seem to “need” so much machinery and then claim machinery costs are killing the job. (Have no memory of the OP doing this so please excuse me) but in this example who needs £15k of 24m sprayer for 150ac ? £1500 buy a plenty adequate one. 12m big enough even. Again apologies to OP cos not aimed specifically at you but I’m constantly astonished by stuff like this. As I have said before probably because I’m not a very good farmer that I can’t afford all this gear 🤐

12 metre?? Why not sell the tractors and buy a couple horses? They'd be plenty adequate!

Why not buy the most efficient tool he can afford? What price do you value your time at per hour?
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
For 150 acres at a time ??

Thats 60 ha - at 200l/ha= 12000 litres water
2000l tank = 6 tankfuls. That just doesn't justify a SP!
It does however merit a nice s/h 12m 2000l trailed - on that acreage even the argument for 24m boom is debatable on cost grounds.

Very few SP's in this part of France, but plenty of 24m trailed.
Do sprayers need an MOT in France ? Operators need PA 1/ 2 etc ?
 
12 metre?? Why not sell the tractors and buy a couple horses? They'd be plenty adequate!

Why not buy the most efficient tool he can afford? What price do you value your time at per hour?
150 acres - so probably not in one field. I suggest that in such cases 24m isn't actually double the work rate of 12m. Irrespective of boom width 150 acres should be a very comfortable days work. And I think you have actually hit the nail on the head - With 150 acres affordability really comes into the equation - £15k comes out at £100/acre
Do sprayers need an MOT in France ? Operators need PA 1/ 2 etc ?
Oh yes, France loves it's buraucracy, so operators have to be proficient, But MOT? are you pulling my leg?
 
Similar situation to the OP here and went for a 24m 3000L trailed case sprayer which was bought for just over half your budget. Certainly wouldn't want any less capacity when I'm tramping about at 4.30 am to get a load done before work! 12m mounted sprayer might be ok if you had all week to p*ss about doing it but when you're trying to juggle a job too you just want to get it done out the way.
If you've a decent tractor to stick on the front I think that would be a much better place to spend time than an old self propelled.
Steering/tracking drawbar a must though especially if you have any hills/sidelands

Just don't see the problem with 12m

150 acre if within a mile of base & pumping from tank next to chemical store two short days max. One good day.

Let the OP enjoy his time & money. Get a brand new mounted Hardi or similar, only nozzles & o rings to buy for the next 20 years.
 

David.

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Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
Biggest risk is hydro pump or motor failure, if there is any oil dripping from wheel motors, they are due a rebuild; they tell me are £2.5k a pop but if you know of a trustworthy hydraulics specialist maybe can be done for less...
 
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neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Do you guys all enjoy swapping rowcrops on and off tractors all summer on your own, or do you just stick on fat tyres?
Or maybe you have a dedicated tractor spare to sit on the sprayer instead?

On my old Agribuggy I put the rowcrops on when it dries up in the Spring, then swap to floats in the Autumn. Those wheels are small & light enough as to be able to safely & easily manoeuvre them myself. I certainly couldn’t do that with the wheels on my JD tractor.
 

GrantMo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Moray
Do all the spring spraying on my 'fat tyres' (16.9's which I'm sure is a row crop for the big boys anyway) then swap onto the row crops in June. That tractor is pretty much left on the sprayer till harvest but it can still do odd jobs like turning hay etc with the row crops on.
Back wheels are water loaded so its a 2 man job for 45 mins to change them. Thinking about a wheel changer thingy for next year.
 

Nearly

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Location
North of York
Do you guys all enjoy swapping rowcrops on and off tractors all summer on your own, or do you just stick on fat tyres?
Or maybe you have a dedicated tractor spare to sit on the sprayer instead?

On my old Agribuggy I put the rowcrops on when it dries up in the Spring, then swap to floats in the Autumn. Those wheels are small & light enough as to be able to safely & easily manoeuvre them myself. I certainly couldn’t do that with the wheels on my JD tractor.
Trailed 24m Gem here. One tractor stays on rowcrops all year. Just swap sprayer wheels onto wides in autumn and put one of normal tractors on for winter.
 

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