Transport.

[7610 super q]

Jeepers. Emmanuel Who Runs Bartertown Macron has closed the port for 3 days, and there's now 6000 ( yes, 6000 ) wagons parked up. Eventually, after getting through interviewing most of them, the BBC will find an English speaking driver I suppose........
Is it just me that thinks WTF ? The " Climate emergency " gurus should be looking into all this lorrying about ? It almost makes air travel look respectable......

 

[robs1]

Jeepers. Emmanuel Who Runs Bartertown Macron has closed the port for 3 days, and there's now 6000 ( yes, 6000 ) wagons parked up. Eventually, after getting through interviewing most of them, the BBC will find an English speaking driver I suppose........
Is it just me that thinks WTF ? The " Climate emergency " gurus should be looking into all this lorrying about ? It almost makes air travel look respectable......

Drive the french motorway from calais to the mont blanc tunnel it's a never ending procession of lorries, the cost must be enormous

 

[Martin Holden]

Jeepers. Emmanuel Who Runs Bartertown Macron has closed the port for 3 days, and there's now 6000 ( yes, 6000 ) wagons parked up. Eventually, after getting through interviewing most of them, the BBC will find an English speaking driver I suppose........
Is it just me that thinks WTF ? The " Climate emergency " gurus should be looking into all this lorrying about ? It almost makes air travel look respectable......

Once a lot of that freight would have been on the rails but the demand for door to door deliveries and the insatiable appetite of the consumer has driven the need for just in time. Do you remember the clean air improvement when the spring lockdown around the world rid the sky’s of planes and roads of cars? Of course it’s still the cows fault for farting though isn’t it?

 

[bobk]

This week's escapades should be a salutatory lesson for Boris , stuff ELMS and stupid AD plants and get UK producers satisfying the home market.
Spoke to a chap selling logs in big bags yesterday , where was the wood from ... Lithuania ffs

 

[kiwi pom]

Jeepers. Emmanuel Who Runs Bartertown Macron has closed the port for 3 days, and there's now 6000 ( yes, 6000 ) wagons parked up. Eventually, after getting through interviewing most of them, the BBC will find an English speaking driver I suppose........
Is it just me that thinks WTF ? The " Climate emergency " gurus should be looking into all this lorrying about ? It almost makes air travel look respectable......

Transport is the thing that keeps the country (any country) going, we'd be pretty screwed without it.
From an outsiders view UK trucking isn't very efficient in terms of freight moved per truck. Too much waiting at shippers and receivers, limits on truck size due to cramped roads and low average speeds due to congestion. Not enough 24hour operations either, pushing more trucks onto day running.
The number of foreign drivers is just part of the race to the bottom industry. Much the same as farming really.

 

[Martin Holden]

This week's escapades should be a salutatory lesson for Boris , stuff ELMS and stupid AD plants and get UK producers satisfying the home market.
Spoke to a chap selling logs in big bags yesterday , where was the wood from ... Lithuania ffs

Precisely. AD plants are a legitimate business but in the scheme of things the amount they generate is tiny and some of the haulage distances don’t help the carbon production either. Ok afraid we need modern Nuclear to ensure self sufficiency and especially if electric cars increase dramatically. Good farmland needs to grow food as long as this can be done without subsidy.

 

[bobk]

Transport is the thing that keeps the country (any country) going, we'd be pretty screwed without it.
From an outsiders view UK trucking isn't very efficient in terms of freight moved per truck. Too much waiting at shippers and receivers, limits on truck size due to cramped roads and low average speeds due to congestion. Not enough 24hour operations either, pushing more trucks onto day running.
The number of foreign drivers is just part of the race to the bottom industry. Much the same as farming really.

And even then it's only possible with the Poland , Hungary and Lithuanian ultra cheap diesel

 

[grainboy]

As now posted on two other threads,
This transportation of Goods only happens because manufacturing of goods that we consume has been outsourced because of cost, profit, share profits,
Is there any going back, !!!
I doubt it, even post Brexit.

 

[M-J-G]

Who's buying only British goods these days?

I'd love to but the pickings are slim, I think the only British machinery in the yard is a couple of Marshall trailers and a McConnell topper.

 

[grainboy]

and I would suspect the gear box on the topper is not British made, !!

 

[wanton dwarf]

This week's escapades should be a salutatory lesson for Boris , stuff ELMS and stupid AD plants and get UK producers satisfying the home market.
Spoke to a chap selling logs in big bags yesterday , where was the wood from ... Lithuania ffs

HMG has had one intent for the past 2+ decades .. destroy UK manufacturing at any cost.

Whilst importing and putting a nice little 10%+ cut for the middle man on imports - who cares that's only a few people compared to 100,000s of jobs ?

The UK Civil Service needs the same treatment it's been doling out on the rest of the UK.

Utterly decimate it, cut their pensions down to a fraction and make them have it at the same time as everyone else.

 

[Martin Holden]

and I would suspect the gear box on the topper is not British made, !!

Precisely. Unless it’s a very basic product the likelihood is that other parts are imported from around the world.

 

[Martin Holden]

HMG has had one intent for the past 2+ decades .. destroy UK manufacturing at any cost.

Whilst importing and putting a nice little 10%+ cut for the middle man on imports - who cares that's only a few people compared to 100,000s of jobs ?

The UK Civil Service needs the same treatment it's been doling out on the rest of the UK.

Utterly decimate it, cut their pensions down to a fraction and make them have it at the same time as everyone else.

Agreed. The private world doesn’t have gilt edge pensio pots these days so why as tax payers should we fund civil servants pensions?

 

[JeepJeep]

I'd love to buy British made parts but when nobody else does they'd be too dear to shift.

Send a sample to 3 factories in China... let the prices come in and MOQs etc and play the 3 off against each other they can always do better.. Parts here in a month or sooner.

We are a long way off playing at that level here again if ever.

 

[M-J-G]

and I would suspect the gear box on the topper is not British made, !!

Nor probably the rams or hubs on the Marshall trailers

 

[7610 super q]

There was a series sometime in the '80's about 2 lorry drivers......one delivered dog food from Hull to Carmarthen, the other driver delivered dog food from Carmarthen to Hull...........and they both shagged each others wives IIRC. I wonder how many goods are exported to the EU, only to have the exact same goods back again...........No surely not.

 

[Will 1594]

There was a series sometime in the '80's about 2 lorry drivers......one delivered dog food from Hull to Carmarthen, the other driver delivered dog food from Carmarthen to Hull...........and they both shagged each others wives IIRC. I wonder how many goods are exported to the EU, only to have the exact same goods back again...........No surely not.

Dog food dan and the camarthen cowboy

 

[grainboy]

As said before, when backloading European transportation i all way ask what they transport in or out.
One surprised me, he had a part load of uk produced manufacturing parts going out, he said these are shipped unpacked at delivery point, uk produced labelling removed, and repackaged with their own labelling and sent back to the uk,
He had good English and had no reason to not believe him,
If this is the case, it’s a crazy world we Iive in !!

 

[delilah]

We are eating oil.

 

[bobk]

We are eating oil.

Ooh , that looks riveting , think I'll watch Stoke on teletext .