Transporting scrap

pappuller

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
M6 Hard shoulder
As per title, we are gathering a fair pile of scrap metal about and usually load up and take it to the scrapyard with tractor and trailer.
Do I technically need to now run on white diesel even though the scrap is farm waste and its proceeds will be paid into the farm account?
Tia
 

Jd.6215

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Arable Farmer
Location
Worcestershire
Pikeys probally run on red, and have no mot or tax to go with it so i would just sheet the trailer and chance it. If you get stopped say your moving it from your farm to your other farm a few miles away
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
I would say you are OK as it is farming operations and purely agricultural (assuming it is all farm scrap and not your boys car, a few pushbikes and a trampoline)
That isn't a definitive answer so if you are concerned just get the scrap man to drop you a skip off.
 

Bramble

Member
HMRC were stopping tractors and trailers hauling scrap last week round us (midlands) and fining farmers on the spot if running on red. They had decided in wasn’t agriculture so should be on white
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Scottish Borders
HMRC were stopping tractors and trailers hauling scrap last week round us (midlands) and fining farmers on the spot if running on red. They had decided in wasn’t agriculture so should be on white
Wouldn’t have been so bad a few years ago, at least the fine could have been paid with ‘tax free’ cash from the scrappy 🤫
 
It's gone slightly grey, there used to be a specific exemption for hauling your own scrap.

However I don't see why it's not covered.

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As above, do you really want to take a vehicle to a scrap yard and pick up a puncture.

This obsession with carting everything and sundry in agricultural trailers needs to stop as you are just giving legitimate hauliers more ammunition and one day red will be done away with as well.
I go to the shops in my tractor
 
It’s fairly clear to me,says you can transport waste to where it’s disposed of.
Indeed, although it actually says you can carry waste from an agricultural activity on your farm so you couldn’t carry it for another farmer or non agricultural scrap/waste but for anyone needing to move waste from their own farm there would appear to be no problem whatsoever.

I say appear as this relates to the use of red diesel, next question is a waste carriers licence required?
Although as someone has said above, take it in a silage trailer or other high sided trailer, if no one can see what’s inside it’s one less thing for them to worry about.
 

eulb

Member
I’ve x2 hooklift bins of my own and I take them in when full,only my own scrap so I can’t see it as a problem,I know the scrap yard wanted my waste carrier number and you have to go with a hard hat,hi-vis and steel toe caps.
 

steh

Member
Livestock Farmer
The Scrap and Waste stations won't tip you if you don't have a waste carrier number where we live.
It is best to do it right anyway I think you need a lower tear license as long as the waste generated is by the business itself including farm off-site waste, unless it's building, construction, demolition waste soil, or rubble then that falls under needing the higher tear license.
Same as needing a Duty of care waste transfer note for the scrap or waste that is taken off-farm to show that you dispose of any waste correctly or you leave yourself open to fines and such things.
 
It really has come to something hasn’t it, in this country we make a big thing of wether someone holds the right piece of paper to carry waste to a disposal site.

Meanwhile this country sends waste to the far side of the world, supposedly for recycling but where it is often left in huge heaps, set fire to or as I’ve seen on one video posted on Facebook, a large number of lorry’s backing up to a swollen river and tipping it in.........not that I’m claiming it was U.K. waste being tipped in the river but it dies highlight the vastly different attitudes to waste disposal around the world
 

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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