Transporting sheep more than 40 miles, Cert' of Comp'?

[Longlowdog]

I've just had a renewal form for self hauling sheep over 40 miles. Apparently I now need a Lantra Sheep Handling Competency Certificate Level 2. Has anyone done it in Scotland, who with and what did it cost/involve? Any info' or thoughts appreciated. I only haul over 40 miles once a year to the premier breed sale and it's beginning to feel like a bit of a faff.

 

[Nithsdale]

I have no 'certs' for shifting livestock, full stop. I just do it...

Who actually asks to see them?

Iv had cross compliance, FA and Trading Standards inspections all in the last 5-8 years and not one asked. Markets never check and I doubt if pulled over the Police or VOSA would know anything about it

 

[GTB]

I have no 'certs' for shifting livestock, full stop. I just do it...

Who actually asks to see them?

Iv had cross compliance, FA and Trading Standards inspections all in the last 5-8 years and not one asked. Markets never check and I doubt if pulled over the Police or VOSA would know anything about it

I agree it's a loads of rubbish created by jobsworths.

 

[exmoor dave]

I agree it's a loads of rubbish created by jobsworths.

It's like the rule with farm assurence, if stock are moved over a certain distance the trailer ramp has to be below a certain angle
But no problem for shorter journeys.......



The stock only run up the ramp once regardless of length of journey

 

[case 5140]

I have no 'certs' for shifting livestock, full stop. I just do it...

Who actually asks to see them?

Iv had cross compliance, FA and Trading Standards inspections all in the last 5-8 years and not one asked. Markets never check and I doubt if pulled over the Police or VOSA would know anything about it

Ive had FA ask for it, bakewell market is 13 mile each way from us so under 40 if have to bring them back, if your taking them over 20 mile you would have to get some one to bring them back they tell me if you don't have it! omg its a game!

 

[JP1]

It's like the rule with farm assurence, if stock are moved over a certain distance the trailer ramp has to be below a certain angle
But no problem for shorter journeys.......



The stock only run up the ramp once regardless of length of journey

I agree it's stupid. Actually what they are saying is the >65km rule is regulated. Personally I think the ramp angle rules and ramp condition and effective parting gate regs should be applied for <65km journeys on welfare and human handling grounds not vice versa

 

[exmoor dave]

I agree it's stupid. Actually what they are saying is the >65km rule is regulated. Personally I think the ramp angle rules and ramp condition and effective parting gate regs should be applied for <65km journeys on welfare and human handling grounds not vice versa

I'd rather they left the ramp angle out of it...... Otherwise most of us with ifors with sheep decks have got non compliant trailers

 

[case 5140]

It's like the rule with farm assurence, if stock are moved over a certain distance the trailer ramp has to be below a certain angle
But no problem for shorter journeys.......



The stock only run up the ramp once regardless of length of journey

Yeah they don't like the Ifw with out the double drop ramp!, am not changing mine till its worn out! got years left in it!

 

[JP1]

I'd rather they left the ramp angle out of it...... Otherwise most of us with ifors with sheep decks have got non compliant trailers

That's the problem isn't it

Did you know there is still no maximum step height in the regs? So in theory it can be any height you could finally drive a beast / sheep up to reduce the ramp angle

 

[JP1]

I do think it unfair that hauliers can't get an ABM number without complying yet farmers are not compelled

 

[ThatsSomeSheep]

I've just had a renewal form for self hauling sheep over 40 miles. Apparently I now need a Lantra Sheep Handling Competency Certificate Level 2. Has anyone done it in Scotland, who with and what did it cost/involve? Any info' or thoughts appreciated. I only haul over 40 miles once a year to the premier breed sale and it's beginning to feel like a bit of a faff.

Our local ring, BMR, hold courses,

I would imagine RingLink or whoever is up your way will also.

TSS