travellers? and they wonder why people hate them

[Smith31]

This is a genuine question.

I have read through this thread...am I missing something?

Surely if the police don't act and do their duty, why can't they be sued? i.e your brand new car gets stolen, it is detected in the local caravan site the following morning, but the police don't act because they are too scared to go in, are they not liable for the losses occurred?

 

[bovrill]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woman-tracks-down-stolen-9000-11491517

Police refuse to enter traveller site to recover stolen property due to concerns over “officer safety”.

Pleased I pay my council tax

I love that phrase in one of the comments.... "Gyplomatic Immunity!"

 

[JP1]

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Hardly necessary. I'd be worried about my Brother too.

 

[franklin]

Police failing to act can be considered misconduct in a public office. But that's more failing to stop someone who is actually committing a crime.

 

[Suffolk Serf]

About four years ago my quad bike was stolen. A couple of weeks later, Lancashire police went onto a "site" for another matter and had a look round and found my quad. Brilliant, apart from the recovery fee. Eventually I got it back and used it seasonally for fencing.
Last winter I parked it in a secluded bit of woodland for a few nights while we had a lot of fencing to do. Guess what? the wretched thing disappeared again! This time I don't think we will see it again.
Over the years i've had a lot of stuff stolen. All we get from our police is stuff about security etc, very difficult on a nomadic outdoor pig unit.

There is increasing coordination to share information locally and increasing anger about police inaction. Who knows where this could lead?

 

[unlacedgecko]

There is increasing coordination to share information locally and increasing anger about police inaction. Who knows where this could lead?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...anded-12-000-cash-mother-return-unharmed.html

Communities taking their own action?

 

[Breckland Boy]

I too have been the victim of crime to varying levels over many years. We have encountered responses to crime from upto 5 vehicles plus helicopter to no response at all depending on how we the victim respond. My late mother was advised one night by my father to ring the police as a car had turned up in the yard, he had rushed in and said he was heading out with his shot gun. Response ? Bedlam.
Another time two days after a flat bed trailer had been stolen and had been traced via eBay by our own initiative.Response? Nothing
Despite this I still have empathy toward our bobbies who generally try to provide a service but are faced with red tape and political correctness that hampers their effectiveness to a point where they might as well not bother. They know who is committing crime but have little power to enforce the law and therefore the law has little or no deterrent

 

[Still Farming]

I love that phrase in one of the comments.... "Gyplomatic Immunity!"

Seems like it.

 

[Sandpit Farm]

Our house got burgled, the crime scene group were there within an hour and the police were there shortly afterwards. They were thorough, polite and got everything they needed. They swabbed blood and fingerprints and kept me up to date with what was happening in the case over the following weeks. They later caught the burglar and managed to send him to prison for 22 months. They asked if they could use this in a newspaper story as good PR.... of course I agreed.

I think some of the comments and attitudes are pretty disgusting and purposefully confrontational here.

 

[Gong Farmer]

Gotta stop reading this thread. Bit of land next door to us has been sold to a gypsy 'family'.

 

[Still Farming]

Gotta stop reading this thread. Bit of land next door to us has been sold to a gypsy 'family'.

Anything for sale their after it ?

 

[onthehoof]

Police failing to act can be considered misconduct in a public office. But that's more failing to stop someone who is actually committing a crime.

Local council recycling centre gets broken into at least once a month sometimes twice in a week, I get the weekly neighbourhood police report and it is often the only crime on it, this has been going on for about 3 years so must be well up into the hundreds of break ins, always the same m o, cut padlocks off front gates break into container steal car batteries and quantity off scrap. Report says police studying cctv. It’s like they’re turning a blind eye it’s only batteries and scrap so why does it matter, maybe they’ve got an agreement if they let them get away with it it will stop them targeting farms. Apparently they know who it is.

 

[honeyend]

Gotta stop reading this thread. Bit of land next door to us has been sold to a gypsy 'family'.

You are less likely to get trouble from an established family. I live in area where is quite a few traveller families, one family has a shop in Cambridge, they pay their council tax and get on with life like the rest of us. I lived in a village where the new social housing was far more bother, with the police helicopter out almost nightly.

 

[bovrill]

I'll join in the defence of the policemen.
I've mixed with a lot of police socially and in sports for several years, and I can assure you that their dislike of pikeys is on a par with farmers hatred of them.
But so often they are powerless to do anything. The pikeys are experts at the thieving they do, and disappear back into their camps before you know something's been nicked, and before a police car has got through the gate to follow them, phone calls are made to way up the ladder complaining about racial harassment. This terrifies the higher echelons of law enforcement, those who sit in an office somewhere and don't have to deal with the general public, or even deal with the officers who are dealing with the general public.
The message is passed down to not venture into the situation, the pikeys know this and make the most of it, and now the policemen on the front line know this, and understand it's futile to chase these crimes up.
And downright dangerous! What's the point of putting your safety at risk if you will get no backing from your superiors, whether you're successful or it all goes wrong.

Several years ago we caught over a dozen hare coursers from Wickford near here, the police had to get involved because we told them that we had enough of us to "sort it out" without them. We did the leg work, accompanied by an officer, plenty of evidence gathered along the way, with police cars up on the road to hand the pikeys over to as we brought them up off the marshes. They were taken to the station in the next town, where they were promptly released, because of an order from on high. The police on the ground were as angry as we were, and made sure they were out of sight when we caught four of them walking back up the railway line to try and round up any surviving dogs.

 

[Still Farming]

Council strapped for cash batteries etc worth a bit think they be more keen to look after them ?

 

[Try to succeed]

The law is for law abiding citizens.

Police don’t respond to criminals here even when you’re chasing your own telehandler that’s been knicked from your yard. The travellers that don’t even travel get protection from fire service, are able to use nhs, have council dustbins that are emptied each week yet don’t pay any council tax?!
Crime is rife here and it’s an absolute free for all. Who’s the mug

 

[ollie989898]

Ive no time for the police. Only reason you ring is to get a crime number for insurance.

Justice system is largely run by wealthy judges who live in a big house with big gates and 10ft walls. They dont know what crime is as they have never experienced it and never will.

Life sentences should mean until you die. Too many terrible criminals walk free or have reduced sentences.

 

[wasted years]

Ive no time for the police. Only reason you ring is to get a crime number for insurance.

Justice system is largely run by wealthy judges who live in a big house with big gates and 10ft walls. They dont know what crime is as they have never experienced it and never will.

Life sentences should mean until you die. Too many terrible criminals walk free or have reduced sentences.

I can't help myself thinking that you;ve either been on the drink or are wanting to harvest 'likes' with that comment?
Maybe a little extreme.

 

[DrWazzock]

I have never had any trouble with travellers. I must be lucky. I have sympathy for those who are having problems.

The gypsies laid the Tarmac on our farm road and it has lasted 30 years. They spray and chip it every few years. I worked on the tar spraying and chipping with them to keep an eye on things and make sure they have some mugs of tea etc and the price is always reasonable and as previously agreed. A lot are just trying to earn a crust like we all are. Some are out and out criminals who ruin it for the rest. They can be loud rough characters but they arent all bad. They do have their own set of rules and values but a lot relies on physical strength and macho culture. A woman's place is in the home.

Be careful not to tar them all with the same brush. Otherwise we could quickly go down the 1930s Nazi Germany route and nobody wants that.

I do fully appreciate though the utter frustration at the seemingly powerlessness of the police to tackle the criminal element. Even my local gypsies were worried their kit would be stolen by that crowd.

 

[Hilly]

The laws are very biased in favour of the criminal element.Just look at the lot facing our solders who were acting under orders 50 years ago in Northern Ireland,and still being hounded by the " justice system " today. To much liberal elite running affairs in our country today .Things have got to change.Oh for a right wing government for a couple of decades to get the job sorted.

Properly right wing, not the slightly less left socialist Tories.

Me likes you two lots and lots .