treated grass seed holding up in drill

[tealdog038]

Any new zealand boys or you foreigners on here having issues with treated grass seed eg: superstrike holding up in your seed drills? We are having a c&^t of a time getting the stuff to flow down to the metering wheel on 3 different drills all with agitators. Any experiences or solutions to this would be a great help.

 

[York]

hang a chain into the bin. End above the metering. Must be a little "heavy" chain. Onc3e material starts to bridge the "loose" bottom part of chain has enough movement to "destroy" bridging.
York-Th.

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

No issue here, but i have only sown treated rye once or twice. Personally i don't see the point in treating rye? Clover or lucerne yes, grass no. But , back to your issue....What is the actual seed like? I.e. seed weight. I ask this because i found this year there was a massive difference between Good grass seed and shitty old tetila. A 4litre ice cream container full of each showed a 600gm difference .2.1 kg for Jivet and 1,5 for tetila. It was just so light and fluffy that if it had been treated i could see it being a problem? But then , i had to have the meter opened up so much more to get the same weight of seed out... so i don't know. Perhaps mix it with something heavier???Bit of sub clover seed, bit of single super....might help it flow better.

 

[tealdog038]

No issue here, but i have only sown treated rye once or twice. Personally i don't see the point in treating rye? Clover or lucerne yes, grass no. But , back to your issue....What is the actual seed like? I.e. seed weight. I ask this because i found this year there was a massive difference between Good grass seed and shitty old tetila. A 4litre ice cream container full of each showed a 600gm difference .2.1 kg for Jivet and 1,5 for tetila. It was just so light and fluffy that if it had been treated i could see it being a problem? But then , i had to have the meter opened up so much more to get the same weight of seed out... so i don't know. Perhaps mix it with something heavier???Bit of sub clover seed, bit of single super....might help it flow better.

The seed outfits seem to treat everything even when the farmers havent asked for it. Not sure about weights have only had 2 customers with untreated stuff, but when calibrating untreated seed il go a couple kgs under the rate and it works out bang on but for treated seed the last few jobs I have set it on the rate needed and then end up cranking it up 5 to maybe even 10kg during the job.

 

[tealdog038]

hang a chain into the bin. End above the metering. Must be a little "heavy" chain. Onc3e material starts to bridge the "loose" bottom part of chain has enough movement to "destroy" bridging.
York-Th.

Il try jimmy something up, it sounds like that would work well. Cheers

 

[bobk]

Any new zealand boys or you foreigners on here having issues with treated grass seed eg: superstrike holding up in your seed drills? We are having a c&^t of a time getting the stuff to flow down to the metering wheel on 3 different drills all with agitators. Any experiences or solutions to this would be a great help.

Think you're the foreigner mate .

 

[tealdog038]

Think you're the foreigner mate .

A wise observation

 

[bobk]

A wise observation

Indeed , with regard to your problem ... go faster .

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

The seed outfits seem to treat everything even when the farmers havent asked for it. Not sure about weights have only had 2 customers with untreated stuff, but when calibrating untreated seed il go a couple kgs under the rate and it works out bang on but for treated seed the last few jobs I have set it on the rate needed and then end up cranking it up 5 to maybe even 10kg during the job.

Good way to make more money out of the customerstreat everything, charge more because its treated, and of course treated seed increases the weight , so less in each bag than untreated. Win win if your the seed company.

 

[benferg]

We had a seed treatment from PGG wrightsons a couple of years back. It was green. Something about the batch was wrong. It would stick to anything.

Generally I have no issues. We run a jd750a and roller drill with electronic metering with fan for delivery. Then a crusty renovator. My biggest issue is seed that has big awns on.

 

[Banana Bar]

hang a chain into the bin. End above the metering. Must be a little "heavy" chain. Onc3e material starts to bridge the "loose" bottom part of chain has enough movement to "destroy" bridging.
York-Th.

Did exactly this in a Vaderstad, and a Kverneland tine seeder. Worked perfectly.

 

[sprigandfern]

Bet benfergs seed had a number in the name and yes it would stick to glass,pain in the arse would be putting it politely,you could try mixing it with a bit of talcum powder ,you can get it in 25kg sacks over here for precisely that problem,graphite powder is another option but a bit pricey

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

Lime it in a cement mixer would be better.

 

[Great In Grass]

I'm not sure if grass seed dressings are of much benefit. I supply four different grass seed ranges and only one is treated as standard.

One of my suppliers trialled all the treatments available some years ago none showed an improvement over untreated & in some cases they had a detrimental effect

The treated range however has never caused a problem when being sown, perhaps it's how it's applied to the seed?

 

[benferg]

What are the treatments for though?
Over here in grass it would be for black bettle, grass grub maybe and spring tails.

The problem with some treatments is that the insect still has to bite the plant several times to get a good dose. So if the insect loading is high then you get a lot of damage before it is controlled

I'm not sure if grass seed dressings are of much benefit. I supply four different grass seed ranges and only one is treated as standard.

One of my suppliers trialled all the treatments available some years ago none showed an improvement over untreated & in some cases they had a detrimental effect

The treated range however has never caused a problem when being sown, perhaps it's how it's applied to the seed?

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[Great In Grass]

The grass seed treatments I'm aware of are bio-stimulants and nitrogen to help aid germination and early vigour.

We can only dream of a grass seed treatment to kill pests.